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Old 11-14-2015, 11:15 PM   #29
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Old 11-15-2015, 07:38 AM   #30
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Favorite SUV?

Wish I had a pic of the Hummer that could not follow my Wrangler down a 1/2 mile old narrow gauge train channel between the rocks near Cleator AZ.
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Old 11-15-2015, 04:02 PM   #31
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Jeep Liberty.....Have a 2012 and love it. Dream to tow
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Old 11-15-2015, 07:45 PM   #32
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Wish I had a pic of the Hummer that could not follow my Wrangler down a 1/2 mile old narrow gauge train channel between the rocks near Cleator AZ.

It's all about the setup. Nothing wrong with either one. I have a Wrangler and love it. I also wish that they still made the Hummer. Also a great SUV or whatever you classify them.
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:13 AM   #33
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It's all about the setup. Nothing wrong with either one. I have a Wrangler and love it. I also wish that they still made the Hummer. Also a great SUV or whatever you classify them.

Clarification: the Hummer was too wide! :(
It was a narrow gauge rail cut
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Sounds like our 97 Grand Cherokee Laredo with 140,000 miles is a keeper then. Talked to a guy a few months ago with a 2001 GC that had 216,000 on odometer and close to another 100,000 being towed. He said it was the most dependable vehicle he had ever owned.
Well, I've been enlightened by Consumer Reports about newer Jeep GC's. They rank new Grand Cherokee GC's -80% on a better or worse chart of midsized SUV's.
DW has decided to look at other brands now for a new SUV. We will continue to tow her 97 until it fails completely. Then I will buy a small 4WD truck to tow 4-down, put a camper shell on the bed for additional storage.
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Old 12-02-2015, 06:35 PM   #37
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The wife loves her Explorer Sport, 6 passenger sport suv ...
awd, but don't think it is 4 down towable..
if I had my druthers it would be the raptor,
but alas, the jeep wrangler is dragged around.
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Ford Excursion. Too bad the big 3 don't make a SUV with a big diesel anymore for those who would like to tow in something other than a pickup. Sad that it got canceled due to bad press by whiny hybrid drivers that said it was too big.
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Subaru Forester. Yes, it is smaller, but the ground clearance is higher than many of the much larger SUVs on the market. The bigger problem is that it can't be towed with wheels down unless you get the standard transmission. We don't do "real" 4 wheel drive roads, but my Subie excels on rough 2 tracks, gravel, and snow. The Outback isn't classified as a SUV, but the Forester is.
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The one being driven by someone that is actually paying attention to driving (no yakking on cell phone, not texting or reading email, no DVD paying for the brats in the back seat, all of which is while drinking thier no fat extra mocca latte from Moonbucks) which with SUVs and Mini vans is a rare occurrence.....
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We've owned two Wranglers (one Sahara, one Rubicon) and these are my favorites, by far. Their smallish gas tank and firm ride are just part of the package. Also the easiest to set up for towing.

Went FT in July and needed to downsize. We sold out on them and went exclusively with the 2015 Cherokee TrailHawk (wife's car). The advantages were larger inside-storage space and a lower roof (the Wranglers were lifted and it was becoming increasingly difficult for us to heft our kayaks onto the roof = personal problem, right?). In the process, the TrailHawk gave us more creature comforts, a less-harsh ride, and more miles from the gas tank.

The jury is still out on the Cherokee's well-publicized transmission problems. We just turned 20,000 miles on ours (purchased on Black Friday 2014) and have not had any tranny problems (knock on wood). Regardless, I don't know if I will ever like the TrailHawk as much as I liked my Wranglers, but I'm not 30 years old anymore, either. In the meantime, I have been pretty impressed, however.

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A '98 Chevy Tracker @2786# is a joy to tow. Also an '03 Chevy Tracker that weighs the same. The '98 four cylinder,5 speed gets better mileage, but the '03 six cylinder with all the options, is less tiring to drive in the mountains, no constant shifting.
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