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Old 11-17-2011, 07:58 AM   #43
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I can't think of a better reason to by a DP. (pun intended)
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:59 AM   #44
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Well, after much research, I find the same size/weight MH, gas vs diesel, the diesel will get about 50% better mileage. Usually, 7mpg gas, 10 mpg diesel. If you are towing, the spread becomes even larger. Sooooooo... If you are paying 3.30 for gasoline, the break even point for diesel is 4.95.

Now, that's not why I bought the DP, No one buys a Diesel to save money, we buy it for power, convenience, and the low power train noise. We just try and justify our purchase with the higher mpg.

I do admit though, it seems like most people enjoy complaining about things they have no control over.
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:20 AM   #45
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A big reason diesel (which is fuel oil/home heating oil with road taxes) goes up this time of year is because it's now home heating time in a big portion of the northern continental U.S. Thus demand is there but supply lags behind.

Additionally a large portion of the U.S. gas stations will be converting over from number 2 diesel to number 1 diesel for truckers (and others) who are headed into the colder areas of the country.

Since number 1 diesel is thinner than number 2 diesel, the refining process takes longer and less product is created.
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:56 AM   #46
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Today's prices at 22 stations South of Miami
Gas $3.36 to $3.48
Diesel $3.79 to $3.99
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:43 PM   #47
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Hmmm....I'm currently in Belgium and Diesel is .20 Euro less per litre than Petrol....

If the speculators were in a conspiracy, wouldn't it be universal?
Oh, Yea, forgot to mention...
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1.39/Litre Diesel=$7.10 a gallon
1.59/Litre Petrol= $8.12 a gallon

Trucks here burn diesel also, so do many cars...
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:07 PM   #48
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Oh, Yea, forgot to mention...
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1.39/Litre Diesel=$7.10 a gallon
1.59/Litre Petrol= $8.12 a gallon

Trucks here burn diesel also, so do many cars...
When factoring in the price of fuel; on must also factor in the average incomes of both countries.
If the average income is $90,000 a year one country; Verses $40,00 a year the other country; it kinda averages out.
In some countries I"m told gas is 19 cents a gallon; but their monthly income is $100.00
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:29 PM   #49
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When factoring in the price of fuel; on must also factor in the average incomes of both countries.
If the average income is $90,000 a year one country; Verses $40,00 a year the other country; it kinda averages out.
In some countries I"m told gas is 19 cents a gallon; but their monthly income is $100.00
I always wonder where some get their facts...

From the State Department of the United States:
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Belgium: income (PPP, 2010 est.): €32,592 .


From U.S. Dept. of Commerce, Bureau of Economic Analysis
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USA: United States $39,945
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:56 AM   #51
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When I was in high school (about two centeries ago) diesel was 19 cents a gallon; gas 27 cents a gallon.
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Old 11-18-2011, 05:14 PM   #52
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$3.529 for Rug in Hillsboro At Freddy's before the $0.03/gal discount, $3.499 before the $0.03/gal discount at the Freddy's in Salem.

$3.979 for Diesel in Salem, $3.999 in Hillsboro, both before the $0.03/gal discount
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$3.26 at Sam's Club for gasoline. Diesel is about 40 a gallon more.
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The increase in diesel occurs every year as the demand for heating oil in the East Coast increases and the MPG in trucks is reduced by approx. 10% due to the "winterization" of the diesel fuel. The volume of middle distillate, which is used for making jet fuel, heating oil, kerosene and diesel, is rather constant in the distillation/fractioning process and therefore as the amount of these fuels are increased to meet demand, it also produces more gasoline while at the same time the demand for gasoline falls. As a result gasoline prices fall (supply/demand scenario). (While all 4 fuels, aviation jet fuel, heating oil, kerosene and diesel come from the same source, they are not equivalent in many aspects. For example, diesel fuel is further processed to reduce the sulfur content).
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Shouldn't be happening at all. I lived in Alaska for 12 years from 1990 to 2002 and they have been trying to open ANWAR even prior to 1990 with no luck...Can't go political but that is the problem.
If any of you are thinking that opening oil fields in the U.S. is going to solve the problem....It won't,, Why ? All this oil that is drilled here goes to the highest bidder i.e. asia, europe. If we would stop exporting what we drill we woild have a glut of oil which would bring prices down. I know when the Alaskan pipeline was built many years ago almost all of it went to Japan. Dont know if that has changed or not Opening up Anwar will not solve a thing. They'll just send it out of the country. Because they are willing to pay more for it than us. This fuel situation is only going to get worse and never get better. I mean NEVER... Live with it or turn your mohos into garden sheds..
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