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Old 02-29-2012, 08:38 PM   #113
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Cool

Higher gas prices overseas seems to spur more new ideas and development. Maybe they will have it all figured out by the time we can no longer afford petroleum products here.
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:38 PM   #114
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Whatever it is, it is. Not going to cancel any trips planned because of the price.
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:23 PM   #115
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My NGV Honda Civic GX gets 32 mpg around town and over 40 on long trips no ac. Most fuel I ever put in was 6.7 GGE. GGE = gasoline gallon equivalent. Did I mention you can use the carpool lanes. Home refueling is also possible. Check out www.cngchat.com and www.cngprices.com
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:21 AM   #116
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My NGV Honda Civic GX gets 32 mpg around town and over 40 on long trips no ac. Most fuel I ever put in was 6.7 GGE. GGE = gasoline gallon equivalent. Did I mention you can use the carpool lanes. Home refueling is also possible. Check out www.cngchat.com and www.cngprices.com

Nice! How many miles per dollar's worth of NG do you get? Does it work out to be about the same as gasoline, or better?

For instance, I get 20MPG in my pickup truck. Fuel costs $4/gallon So I get about 5 miles per dollar.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:32 AM   #117
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Met a guy one time in Lake Havasu City Az. We were both gassing up our boats at the highway gas pumps, and he told me he went through $2400.00 worth of diesel in 2 hours on a Saturday in the "poker runs" on the lake. He had one of those ocean racing cigarette hulls with dual diesel racing engines. In short he told me he does it because he can. We seem to forget there are a lot of people on this forum who will not give up the rv life no matter how high fuel prices go. Why ? Because they can..
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Old 03-01-2012, 10:01 AM   #118
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Met a guy one time in Lake Havasu City Az. We were both gassing up our boats at the highway gas pumps, and he told me he went through $2400.00 worth of diesel in 2 hours on a Saturday in the "poker runs" on the lake. He had one of those ocean racing cigarette hulls with dual diesel racing engines. In short he told me he does it because he can. We seem to forget there are a lot of people on this forum who will not give up the rv life no matter how high fuel prices go. Why ? Because they can..
Very true. It's all about perspective. I met a guy in vegas who said he flies in for a couple of weeks and blows through $25k every night playing blackjack. Most people would find this incredible. For him, it was just what he was willing to pay for entertainment, and made no impact on his financial situation.
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Old 03-01-2012, 10:13 AM   #119
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Remember when gas was cheap and even new families and middle class people could afford to RV? I wonder if that will ever occur again.
My first job I made .25 per hour, and now I am 65 and still working, but we love our MH and will pay the price to enjoy as long as we are able.
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Nice! How many miles per dollar's worth of NG do you get? Does it work out to be about the same as gasoline, or better?

For instance, I get 20MPG in my pickup truck. Fuel costs $4/gallon So I get about 5 miles per dollar.
My long term fuel cost is about five cents per mile. MH could be built using this fuel just like busses and garbage trucks in Calif. filling at home would cost about $1.35 all in, depreciation, gas and electric.
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My long term fuel cost is about five cents per mile. MH could be built using this fuel just like buses and garbage trucks in Calif. filling at home would cost about $1.35 all in, depreciation, gas and electric.
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In the good old days when gas was .28 a gallon, Dad bought a new 55 ford victoria and a 15 ft starfire camp trailer. A v-8 ford got about 12 mpg and would last 80,000 miles and 5 years max. We paid no cable or cell phone bill. As a family of 7 we all lived in a 900 sq ft house, one bath ( 4 girls). As a teenager I moved into the starfire in the backyard. Dad would move the starfire to a cattle ranch in the summer where I worked for .50 an hour 60 hrs a week to buy school clothes. We camped a lot. Mostly far from other people. You older folks wondering how your kids will manage, take a look at how most of them live. What they spend, and how they live compared to the good old days. Fuel is the least of their problems.
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The energy from fossil fuels is way more than you could get from fuel cells, and almost any other type of fuel we have at the moment.

Someone on another forum that I use posted a link to a video that gives a pretty thorough rundown of the energy debate. It's a bit long, but worth it to give a better understanding of our energy problems and why we are so dependent on fossil fuels (and why prices keep going up).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=VOMWzjrRiBg
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You older folks wondering how your kids will manage, take a look at how most of them live. What they spend, and how they live compared to the good old days. Fuel is the least of their problems.
Mostly as I see it, the problem is we all have gotten used to a certain standard of living. USA is for the first time since 1949 is exporting more petroleum products then we import. There is no shortage of oil.

As long as we over export to an ever expanding world market, prices will continue to sky rocket. Higher energy prices will continue to squeeze the middle class and people on fixed incomes.

Embrace $5.00 a gallon gas, because it won't be around very long.
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So, what can be done about the export problem?
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Nothing will be done about it; it's a free market and that's where they are selling the products.
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