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Old 12-15-2014, 09:45 AM   #183
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Hummm I have begun to see a lot of flat tires in HCP spots with no tag or placard. Concedence?

I did some volunteering for my local police as a citizens mobile patrol. We were authorized to ticket handicap and fire hydrant/ parking violations. We went out of our way to look inside a vehicle in a handicap spot to be sure their placard was there and not displayed. A large # of them were there. The others got a $250 summons 😄. A flat tire wouldn't be nice to do to someone who may in fact be legitimate.
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Old 12-15-2014, 10:18 AM   #184
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Jerry, you should have called 911 and reported it. I've done that before. Problem is that the person will probably be gone before the police can get there!


Hmmm, does lack of a handicap placard really warrant a 911 emergency call? YMMV
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Personally, I think the self-appointed morals police need to get a different hobby. My step-mother is blind and has been for most of her life. Typically she will walk unaided from her seat to the front of the car and meet dad taking his arm and going on their way. If you didn't know she was blind you'd have no clue from their behavior. The number of times they have been yelled at by nosy good-for-nothings for parking where they have every right to park is sickening.

Do people wrongly parking in handicap spots annoy me? Sure. But life is too short to get upset at every perceived slight or mistake made by my fellow man. People make mistakes, people do wrong, and karma is a bitch.

Unless you're a law enforcement officer or business owner, shut your pie hole and mind your business. And, if I'm taking my Mom out, use the handicap parking spot, and walk her to the door and you come up to me cursing and yelling? Well, we're going to have more then just words. My dad's a lot more forgiving then I am.
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Something to ponder. Police have a lot more on their mind for protecting humanity than a violator in a handicapped spot. Besides, If it is at a store, and is NOT street parking, it is private property. In most instances the police will not take any action unless the owner of the parking lot calls and reports any type of incident.

Around here, most parking lots, as are the building, are owned by Weingarten Realty and as once happened to me when I told a manger of a store there was a handicap parking violation outside, he responded, "The owner of the parking lot (sic: Weingarten) does not want calls to the police regarding parking."

Does it upset me, yes. Is there really anything I can do about it, no. If it is a handicapped spot on the street, well that may be a different situation that can be (get) enforced.
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Old 12-15-2014, 06:42 PM   #187
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I've been a passenger in my BIL's vehicle when he parks in a HC space with his DW's HC tag on the mirror. She is legitimately disabled; he is not. It bothers me but I know he and a lot of other folks are handicapped scofflaws.
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I've been a passenger in my BIL's vehicle when he parks in a HC space with his DW's HC tag on the mirror. She is legitimately disabled; he is not. It bothers me but I know he and a lot of other folks are handicapped scofflaws.
Did you smack your in-law for his parking misdeed? I would have and then told his wife, mother, children, and the LEO that resides next door
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One way to stop abuse would be to make the handicap hang tag the ONLY way to identify the person with the handicap and THEIR picture on it. Then you would know when someone else (husband, wife, children, siblings, ect.) is not legally using the spot. And let the owner of the handicap card know that the fine will be $1000.00 for the first offence so they can warn others that drive the vehicle and use the tag illegally what the consequences will be. Just my dimes worth.
Here in WA we are issued a wallet card that gives our name and the tag/license plate number that is issued to us. Both my wife and I have tags, plus I'm deputized to write handicapped violation tickets. And I wish I could write all that I see!
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Personally, I think the self-appointed morals police need to get a different hobby. My step-mother is blind and has been for most of her life. Typically she will walk unaided from her seat to the front of the car and meet dad taking his arm and going on their way. If you didn't know she was blind you'd have no clue from their behavior. The number of times they have been yelled at by nosy good-for-nothings for parking where they have every right to park is sickening.

Do people wrongly parking in handicap spots annoy me? Sure. But life is too short to get upset at every perceived slight or mistake made by my fellow man. People make mistakes, people do wrong, and karma is a bitch.

Unless you're a law enforcement officer or business owner, shut your pie hole and mind your business. And, if I'm taking my Mom out, use the handicap parking spot, and walk her to the door and you come up to me cursing and yelling? Well, we're going to have more then just words. My dad's a lot more forgiving then I am.
Here in WA being blind is not considered as being handicapped since you can't drive. Here you must have a walking disability; ie not able to walk over 200 feet without resting.
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Hmmm, does lack of a handicap placard really warrant a 911 emergency call? YMMV

Around here that's the only way to contact the police. I tell them when they answer that this is NOT an emergency call! They are OK with that!
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Years ago the San Diego Police Department lay in wait for the handicapped parking scofflaws that show up every week at the Charger games. These idiots "borrow" grandma's hang tag and park in the front row stadium handicapped parking. They wrote close to a hundred tickets that day, at $400+ a copy and they confiscated the hang tags. The word got around, not so much of a problem anymore.

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Years ago the San Diego Police Department lay in wait for the handicapped parking scofflaws that show up every week at the Charger games. These idiots "borrow" grandma's hang tag and park in the front row stadium handicapped parking. They wrote close to a hundred tickets that day, at $400+ a copy and they confiscated the hang tags. The word got around, not so much of a problem anymore.


Maybe we could borrow those cops for a week or so!
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Here in WA being blind is not considered as being handicapped since you can't drive. Here you must have a walking disability; ie not able to walk over 200 feet without resting.
Wrong.

And herein lies the problem. People who believe they have knowledge when they really do not, particularly those to take it upon themselves to accost perceived offenders. From the Washington State application for Disabled Parking Placards:

Type of disability:
  • Cannot walk 200 feet without stopping to rest
  • Severely limited in ability to walk due to arthritic, neurological, or orthopedic condition
  • Cannot walk without the use of an assistive device
  • Uses portable oxygen
  • Ability to walk is restricted by lung disease to such an extent that forced expiratory respiratory volume, when measured by spirometry, is less than one liter per second, or the arterial oxygen tension is less than 60 mm/hg on room air at rest
  • Class III impairment by cardiovascular disease (see instructions)
  • Class IV impairment by cardiovascular disease (see instructions)
  • Has a disability resulting from acute sensitivity to automobile emissions, which limits or impairs the ability to walk and the severity of this disability is comparable to the other conditions listed above
  • Restricted by a form of porphyria to the extent that the applicant would significantly benefit from a decrease in exposure to light
  • Legally blind with limited mobility

http://www.dol.wa.gov/forms/420073.pdf

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Something to ponder. Police have a lot more on their mind for protecting humanity than a violator in a handicapped spot. Besides, If it is at a store, and is NOT street parking, it is private property. In most instances the police will not take any action unless the owner of the parking lot calls and reports any type of incident.

Around here, most parking lots, as are the building, are owned by Weingarten Realty and as once happened to me when I told a manger of a store there was a handicap parking violation outside, he responded, "The owner of the parking lot (sic: Weingarten) does not want calls to the police regarding parking."

Does it upset me, yes. Is there really anything I can do about it, no. If it is a handicapped spot on the street, well that may be a different situation that can be (get) enforced.
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Wrong.

And herein lies the problem. People who believe they have knowledge when they really do not, particularly those to take it upon themselves to accost perceived offenders. From the Washington State application for Disabled Parking Placards:

Type of disability:
  • Cannot walk 200 feet without stopping to rest
  • Severely limited in ability to walk due to arthritic, neurological, or orthopedic condition
  • Cannot walk without the use of an assistive device
  • Uses portable oxygen
  • Ability to walk is restricted by lung disease to such an extent that forced expiratory respiratory volume, when measured by spirometry, is less than one liter per second, or the arterial oxygen tension is less than 60 mm/hg on room air at rest
  • Class III impairment by cardiovascular disease (see instructions)
  • Class IV impairment by cardiovascular disease (see instructions)
  • Has a disability resulting from acute sensitivity to automobile emissions, which limits or impairs the ability to walk and the severity of this disability is comparable to the other conditions listed above
  • Restricted by a form of porphyria to the extent that the applicant would significantly benefit from a decrease in exposure to light
  • Legally blind with limited mobility

http://www.dol.wa.gov/forms/420073.pdf

Mind your business.
I didn't see where you posted she had limited mobility in your post. So we may have not seen the real picture. I'm still confuse why an able bodied driver wouldn't just drop and pick up the handicapped person right at the door.
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