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Old 05-20-2012, 04:50 PM   #141
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Having been to Big Bend this winter I went through several check points. Same procedure as most. Are you a US citizen question, yes, cleared through. After seeing numerous government compounds with boarder guard facilities I thought to myself, I really don't mind the checks & the millions of our tax dollars being spend but are we really accomplishing anything for our money knowing that millions of illegals are in our country? One must questions what have they accomplished.
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Old 05-20-2012, 05:00 PM   #142
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PNR, please tell me where there is a Border Patrol checkpoint on I20 or I37. I have driven the length of both of these Interstate Highways on several occasions and have as yet to see one.

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The one I went thru on 37 was a big mobile enclosed trailer used as a command post.

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Old 05-20-2012, 05:06 PM   #143
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...After seeing numerous government compounds with boarder guard facilities I thought to myself, I really don't mind the checks & the millions of our tax dollars being spend but are we really accomplishing anything for our money knowing that millions of illegals are in our country? One must questions what have they accomplished.
Yes, I wonder about that myself....

It's very complicated, but I'm starting to think the answer may have to do mostly with labor economics. But it might also have to do with drug traffic. Both have a lot of financial incentives.

I agree with earlier posts that basically say we could stop it if we really wanted to, if our priorities were smarter.

And before I am reminded by someone that the Texas border is 2000 miles and too big to cover, let me point out that we seem willing to spend hundreds of billions of US dollars (that we do not have, by the way) to create a war in a country that never attacked us or even threatened to attack us? Why not spend all that money on our own border security?

That 'smarter' priority would at least build an American asset and create many US jobs.
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Old 05-20-2012, 05:14 PM   #144
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They were also takin pics and exraying vehicles. Maybe they were lookin for the AG'S lost guns ?
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Where you hunting and have a hunting licence? If so, you agreed to the search when you bought the licence. People simply traveling did not..
Just driven' to work. It's like an sobriety check point. No probable cause necessary.

But where's it end? STD's are epidemic, do we tolerate a check point for that? How about obesity, etc.

Illegal's will stop entering when their employers are fined or jailed. End of that problem.
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Just driven' to work. It's like an sobriety check point. No probable cause necessary.

But where's it end? STD's are epidemic, do we tolerate a check point for that? How about obesity, etc.

Illegal's will stop entering when their employers are fined or jailed. End of that problem.

Finally a voice of reason!
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Illegal's will stop entering when their employers are fined or jailed. End of that problem.
Here! Here! What I would like to see is "Asset Forfeiture" laws enacted and enforced against the employers. If an employer is caught more than once willfully employing ILLEGAL aliens, his business is placed under court supervision where all employment and financial decisions are supervised by the court. A third time and the business and all its assets are seized under asset forfeiture.

Enact this type of law and watch how fast job opportunities for ILLEGALS dry up.

America is the shining beacon on the hill for most of the rest of the world. Where opportunities abound. Whether they arrive legally or not. To stop the illegal immigration problem, you have to take away the incentive.

And then no one will be harassed at border checkpoints!
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"See senior"...citizen????
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I think he meant "si, Seņor"
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I get a little tired of the poepl sreaming anout Socialist State, Big Brother is watching and so on... We have to have some of these inconveniences in palce inorder to protect us from the nuts trying to ruin our lives by blowing up places. In addition, we are being over run by drug runners and illegal aliens.

SO like the sign says :quityourbitchin" and enjoy the life we have.

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And Ken, I reply to you that the life we have here is rapidly being changed from a free country to a police state all in the name of "safety" and "terrorism prevention", when most of the so called solutions are nothing more than security theatre. There are ways to protect ourselves from those who would do us harm, but rampant political correctness has TSA agents fondling six year old girls and embarrassing eighty year old grandmothers in wheelchairs. Ditto for Border Patrol agents asking me for my citizenship status fifty miles inland from the border. They should be asking that question AT the border. Next you'll be seeing random checks in the heartland, all in the name of "safety". Ever heard of a TSA VIPR team? In my humble opinion those guys are only slightly removed from the Nazi stormtrooper demanding "are your papers in order?"

Remember what Benjamin Franklin had to say about giving up liberties for safety, saying those who give up liberty for safety deserve neither liberty or safety.
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Who's in charge of rounding up the bad guys that slip through the border net?
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For those who complain, have you checked the laws of your state lately? In Arizona they have passed a law requiring LEOs to ask anyone they stop. And since profiling is illegal, and since LEOs have to account for all stops they make, how else to they prove they are not profiling? Less government? Do you really think you'd have more rights? You'd have states competing against each and passing laws against each other just like this country did after the Revolutionary War. The problems created by the lack of power for the federal government, and the states competing and arguing and going to war against each other is the reason the Constitution was created. And if you think the Bill of Rights is a guarantee, please re-read. Those rights are privileges, not a guarantee.
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Where does it say they are privileges? I really like our Bill of Rights, and I don't remember any wording about privileges that can somehow be revoked!

It is called the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Privileges!

I'm serious. Where does this come from? Thanks for any enlightenment on this one....
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