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Old 05-21-2012, 08:51 PM   #211
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I got hassled but it was my hat as it it the jet engine in their helicopters then it was fun we both laughed
Dear Whem:

I read then re-read your post. Is it my 3rd martini or is your post incoherent?

No disrespect intended.
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Old 05-21-2012, 08:57 PM   #212
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Where I live, the folks most likely to get pulled over by The Authorities are those consisting of any combination of teenagers- you choose the color- in a fast car, and out after dark.

They haven't broken any laws, mind you- they're just there.

For all you "no-profiling"/Constitutionalists: are the Local Cops in the wrong there, too?
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"Just doing their job". What planet are you living on? Border patrol agents are the bottom end of the spectrum, wanna be's. They join with hopes of using the service to gain entry to the FBI or ICE. after not being recruited they quit in about 18 months. Do a little home work, highest percent of corruption, currently under investigation and conviction. Info from their own reports. The TSA is a different matter, must have proven history of stealing change from ash trays for a time before being admitted to service. EVERY town is up to it's ears with illegals, druggies. Jails, prisons, schools, hospitals full. Billions of tax dollars wasted , it's a vote getting Ponzi.
"Just doing their Job". Next time you are in town, I have some property just south of Galveston with a ocean view, or would you prefer a bridge in the desert?
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Well, I live in AZ (and have for 54 years) so I'm qualified to get huffy.

How would you feel about being racially profiled if you were a Latino U.S. citizen, be it naturalized, first generation citizen, second generation, etc.? What if you were African American? Would you feel it was acceptable to be racially profiled (and it still goes on, btw)?

A politician being repeatedly elected doesn't mean squat. Plenty of crooked politicians have been relected repeatedly. It's long past time the Feds stepped in.

I guess I'll never know what it's like to be profiled, I'm just a harmless old
white guy. And until old white guys sneaking into the US becomes a
problem, they'll probably leave me alone....

And what is it with "African-American", my ancestors came from England and
Scotland, but I'm not a British-American, UK-American, Euro-American, or
even a Nordic-American (my favorite..).
I mean, who wants to be Old White Guy-American??

Moving on..........Shouldn't it be called ethnic-profiling, not racial?
I always thought the 3 human races were white, black, and asian.

And the US Census Bureau seems to agree with that, at least about latinos.


2010 Census
The 2010 US Census included changes designed to more clearly
distinguish Hispanic ethnicity as not being a race. That included adding
the sentence: "For this census, Hispanic origins are not races." Additionally,
the Hispanic terms were modified from "Hispanic or Latino" to
"Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin".

I have learned a lot from this thread...

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I meant racial profiling (which is still happening, btw) and failed to specify it (sorry) however, not all profiling is good, such as pulling over people in red cars more often than other colors just because of the color, pulling over young drivers because they are young, etc. Behavioral profiling is different; it is based on actual behaviors, not physical characteristics. I used behavioral profiling to determine if a customer that came into my store was going to steal or not.
I hate to break it to you but racial profiling does NOT happen much at all anymore. I believe you are basing your opinion on media reports and not real world experience. But i can tell you that i have heard this complaint on more than one occassion..."I'm sure you're right, I didn't stop you for driving 80 in a 65 mph zone, I stopped you because while I was approaching you from the opposite direction, in the dark with your headlights glaring in my eyes, with a close rate in excess of 150 mph, I could clearly tell that you were of a particular race that we are profiling today."

Let me assure you that all of the officers I know and work with, (local, state and federal) have not, do not now and would never profile based on race. Every person I came in contact with either sought me out as a complainant or was detained for commiting some violation.

Let me put this in terms that everyone can understand. The most sacred right we as Americans have IS our liberty. Taking that liberty is the MOST serious thing any LEO can do and that Duty is taken very seriously by us. We do not take it lightly.

But before you or anyone else cast that wide net indicating that all LEOs would willfully violate anyone's rights or work outside the bounds within which society mandates that we operate just to make a case or harass someone, come do our job first, then you can speak about how wrong or corrupt we are. That includes the proud men and women of the Border Patrol.

No one dislikes a dirty cop more than and honest one.
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And what is it with "African-American", my ancestors came from England and
Scotland, but I'm not a British-American, UK-American, Euro-American, or
even a Nordic-American (my favorite..).
I mean, who wants to be Old White Guy-American??

Nicely put. Remember, to my people, ya'll are all illegal aliens.


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Nicely put. Remember, to my people, ya'll are all illegal aliens.


lol
See what happens when you don't have good immigration laws. (sorry just couldn't resist that)
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"Just doing their Job". Next time you are in town, I have some property just south of Galveston with a ocean view, or would you prefer a bridge in the desert?
Ken

How much are you asking for your lovely property on Galveston Island, just southwest of Galveston?





And that bridge in the desert at Lake Havasu- pretty cool, huh?


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But all terrorists seem to be Muslim........ Hmmm.
FYI: Timothy McVeigh was a white American...so, not ALL TERRORISTS are Muslims!
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In order to have a secure community, I believe it is incumbent for each and everyone of us to assist in making that happen. The authorities cannot be everywhere at once and without the help of the citizens, their job IS impossible.
Isn't that what they did in Germany before the 2nd World War?
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I always thought the 3 human races were white, black, and asian.
3 HUMAN RACES!

Seriously!

SERIOUSLY!

WOW!

Hate to break it to you at this late stage in your life buddy..but there's only ONE HUMAN RACE...and that's EVERYONE who lives on planet EARTH!
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I always thought the 3 human races were white, black, and asian.
3 HUMAN RACES!

Seriously!

SERIOUSLY!

WOW!

Hate to break it to you at this late stage in your life buddy..but there's only ONE HUMAN RACE...and that's EVERYONE who lives on planet EARTH![/QUOTE]

Tell that to the lady who was concerned with "racial profiling" of Hispanics.
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I always thought the 3 human races were white, black, and asian.
3 HUMAN RACES!

Seriously!

SERIOUSLY!

WOW!

Hate to break it to you at this late stage in your life buddy..but there's only ONE HUMAN RACE...and that's EVERYONE who lives on planet EARTH![/QUOTE]




I apologize, maybe my wording wasn't simple enough for you to understand.
By naming white, black and asian, I guess I assumed you would figure it out.
Obviously not, let me try again............

I always thought that the 3 races of the Homo (genus) sapiens (modern man) are
Caucasion, Mongoloid, and Negroid. (in alphabetical order)
However, I'll let you try to figure out which is black, white, and asian.

Now do you understand what I meant to say.........buddy.

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You are absolutely incorrect that all terrorists are muslim. Have ou forgotten Timothy McVeigh and his partner? Timothy was blondhaired. What about the Unabomber? PLease check your facts before making biased and incorrect statements

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. Not all muslims are terrorists and the border patrol is trying to keep them separated and keep YOU safe. Instead of complaining, you should be thanking them.

But all terrorists seem to be Muslim........ Hmmm.[/QUOTE]
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