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Old 09-22-2012, 11:13 AM   #1
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Health care reform and us seniors

I don't wish to start a political thread here because both parties voted this into law. I received this link to some facts about how this bill will affect everyone but mostly seniors which is most of us.

I think everyone should see this video and know what is about to happen so you can be prepared. It is a sad day for America and "we the people".


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Old 09-22-2012, 01:28 PM   #2
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I watched this video recently and found it to be out of date. For instance, there are numerous references to paragraphs, subparagraphs, etc. that do not exist in the new health care law. I cannot say whether or not certain restrictions will be imposed and if certain changes will be made to our health care but the video does little to help me understand the issues since I'm not able to cross-reference the items mentioned in the video to the law that was signed by President Obama.

After watching the video (sometime last month) I spent the better part of a day researching the subject of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA). While there are many open issues regarding PPACA this video does little to answer those questions. IMO the video is a scare tactic. I'm not in favor of PPACA because I think there are much better solutions to ensuring all U.S. citizens have health care insurance. However, this video is out of date and there are better videos out there on the subject.

On a related subject I suggest anyone interested in health care reform check into various forms of consumer driven health care. Some other countries have this (no not Canada and not England).

I realize not everyone will spend 2-1/2 hours watching a video hosted by Harvard Business School professor Regina Herzlinger,but it does a much better job explaining the current situation of health care and health care insurance (these are separate subjects to a great degree) and how to fix the problems.

A much shorter video captures some of the issues we face. Unfortunately, PPACA does not solve the problems.


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Go to factcheck.org2009/08/twenty-six-lies-about-hr-3200/. I believe that will clear up alot of the issues in this tape.
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If I recall correctly there were no Republican Votes for the Health Care Act. It was passed when the Democrats controlled the House and Senate, and I believe the Republicans were excluded from crafting the act. To quote the former Speaker of the House of Representatives "You have to pass it to find out what's in it."
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Typical one sided reporting of only the negative facts that they want you to see to help their cause. There is a lot of Pluses for the minus.

We need a clear and concise report covering BOTH sides.

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All you have to do is open the link to the video. All the suggested videos make one feel that they are in line at the grocery store looking at cover pages of the Enquirer, and Star. I was looking to see if I could find a u-tube video of Oprah carrying Obama's love child.

Who ever you are OP, if you want someone to take you seriously, you should find some credible sources. As for the "I don't want to start a political thread" remark???
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OK folks... let's keep the discussion objective and out of the partisan politics please.

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The health care act is one of the biggest issues of the upcoming presidential election. That sorta makes me believe this is a political topic.
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Although this topic impacts us all, it really has no direct connection to RVing so we're closing it.


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