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Old 04-03-2011, 01:45 PM   #29
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I wouldn't expect US based companies are powerful enough to control world oil supplies. Corporations move offshore for tax breaks so the top exec's can be paid ridiculous amounts of money without having to pay US income taxes. Since most corporations compete in a world market this is considered OK. Only problem is it contributes to our rising national debt.
I'd suggest reviewing the United States' corporate income tax rate with that of the other developed nations as well as what we do with repatriated earnings if you want to see why corporations are moving offshore.

At this point, our company (headquartered in Houston, TX) is still a Delaware corporation, but our former parent corporation (who spun their oil and gas business [i.e., us] off in the 1990s to the stockholders as a separate company) first moved to Bermuda and is now an Irish corporation. More and more of our business comes from our international operations, so it's probably a matter of time for our company as well.

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Before this thread is shut down, I invite you to check out the following USGS link and consider the resources the US has control over and ask why we are not making use of them.

http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911
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Hydrogen, eh?
(get out the flamethrowers, everytime I bring this up I get flamed for being nuts)

What about locally produced hydrogen? Browns gas, produced from water by electrolisis, on board on demand. No storage problem, it all goes straight into the engines intake tract as it is produced.

A friend has a system on his powerstroke, and swears by it. He claims 25mpg at cruise, in an f250 pulling a 28 foot fifth wheel. He tells me that with 60 amps input, the system produces enough hydrogen to replace half the diesel it would have burned at cruise.

I haven't done a cost benefit analysis, but now that I finally own a diesel, I'm gonna.
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That article is dated over 3 years ago. What are they doing, waiting for a rainy day?
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Hydrogen, eh?
(get out the flamethrowers, everytime I bring this up I get flamed for being nuts)

What about locally produced hydrogen? Browns gas, produced from water by electrolisis, on board on demand. No storage problem, it all goes straight into the engines intake tract as it is produced.

A friend has a system on his powerstroke, and swears by it. He claims 25mpg at cruise, in an f250 pulling a 28 foot fifth wheel. He tells me that with 60 amps input, the system produces enough hydrogen to replace half the diesel it would have burned at cruise.

I haven't done a cost benefit analysis, but now that I finally own a diesel, I'm gonna.

As for the reason that you cannot merely extract hydrogen to continuously 1/2 power your vehicle, it is due to simple conservation of energy. Simply put, the energy you use to convert the water into hydrogen would be at most equal to the energy that hydrogen could provide. Of course due to losses, from things like resistance in your apparatus, you would actually end up using up more energy to get the hydrogen than you would gain from using it as a fuel source. This is not just my opinion.

60 amps by 12 volts will produce 720 watts and at most will only produce 2500 BTU's. It will take 53 HOURS to equal the BTU potential in one gallon of diesel.

Before diesels were messed up with all the hop up modifications, you could by itself get 25 MPG. A nice light foot and the right fuel economy attitude accounts for good MPG.

Good luck with it.


My example in an earlier post, if you look at it, has already been designed and BUILT. It works! The source of hydrogen is the SUN through production of electricity using the SUN. Ovshinsky is a GENIUS. It's not going to happen because, like here, nobody cares enough to get excited about it. It works on EXISTING CARS.! People have to fix how their minds work. People have to remember what they were like when they were younger. When dreams and ideas were reality waiting to happen.
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I believe one of the problems with people accepting new technology is their mind has been pre-programmed by the people that do nothing except say it won't work. A free thinker will discover the facts, (not political rhetoric) and then make a decision as to whether anything is possible or not.
There is so much propaganda spewed by the people that do not want to use what is available and are looking for pie in the sky. Just because I or any other person doesn't believe something has nothing to do with reality.

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I believe many people (myself included) have an open mind - at least until the claims violate the laws of physics and/or thermodynamics.

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