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Old 01-06-2014, 10:47 AM   #29
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I am with Dennis.

Also, I follow my manual for winterizing. It gives two options, antifreeze or blow out the lines. I choose to blow out the lines. However, being 40 miles South of Houston we don't really get that many long cold snaps.

So far so good in many years of just blowing out the lines.
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I am with Dennis.

Also, I follow my manual for winterizing. It gives two options, antifreeze or blow out the lines. I choose to blow out the lines. However, being 40 miles South of Houston we don't really get that many long cold snaps.

So far so good in many years of just blowing out the lines.
Wayne, do you use a compressor for that or hot air!

Just asking, others want to know!

Sorry Wayne, just couldn't pass that opportunity up, I should be getting my self help book at the GC. " how to make and keep friends on the Internet"
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2 to 3 months ago, there were a LOT of posts where guys were asking what the folks in here thought they should do when it comes to winterizing... Just blowing out their lines... Put a light bulb in the lower bay... Etc... Most of these posters were trying to figure out a lazy way to short cut what is part of this way of life.
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I resemble that remark, (although I am not "trying to figure out a lazy way" to winterize my coach).

My coach has seen winter temps lower than -30 degrees F during the last 12 winters.
When winterizing I simply "gravity drain" everything in my fresh water system.
I do not use RV antifreeze, (except in the waste tanks, the p-traps and the Splendide).
I do not "blow out" the lines.
I have never had a freeze related problem.

That's NOT my recommendation... just my "lazy way" of winterizing!

BTW, I have found that most "know-it-alls" seldom actually know it all... therefore they can seldom say, "I told you so"!

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Of course, the 2 x 4 lumber is really 1 3/4 x 3 1/2 inches. Go figure...

RV content: it's 1 degree F here, and my motorhome has pink stuff in the lines. On our previous TREK, I used to blow out the lines with air. One year a line retained some water, and I had a leak in the spring. I agree that air evacuation works just fine if perfectly done, but using the pink stuff gives me that extra measure of confidence.
Actually 1 1/2" x 3 1/2"
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Actually 1 1/2" x 3 1/2"
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2x4s are now only 1 1/2" thick.

However, many OLD 2x4s are STILL 1 3/4" thick, others are
1 5/8" and very old ones are 2"........(depending upon when the were made).
They don't shrink with age.
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My coach has seen winter temps lower than -30 degrees F during the last 12 winters.
When winterizing I simply "gravity drain" everything in my fresh water system.
I do not use RV antifreeze, (except in the waste tanks, the p-traps and the Splendide).
I do not "blow out" the lines.
I have never had a freeze related problem.

That's NOT my recommendation... just my "lazy way" of winterizing!

BTW, I have found that most "know-it-alls" seldom actually know it all[/I]... therefore they can seldom say, "I told you so"!

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Mel, if you spend your winters in WI... leave your coach outside on in an unheated garage... and don't do anything but gravity drain your freshwater and antifreeze your waste system... and have never had a freeze up??? then you ARE one very lucky camper! I would certainly have to agree with you that I would never recommend anyone else do this. As Grandpa taught me, it is better to Err on the side of caution...
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bcbrowne

2x4s are now only 1 1/2" thick.

However, many OLD 2x4s are STILL 1 3/4" thick, others are
1 5/8" and very old ones are 2"........(depending upon when the were made).
They don't shrink with age.
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not unless a termite gets them ... anyone tell me why the wood is smaller and still called 2x4?

Oh, and all this pink stuff shortage talk makes me want to go out and stock up... when I wanted it back in...Oct? there was none to be found at my local wally world... luckily I got the last 2 gallons at O'Reily's. But then, I remember, oh, I have a very small C type RV and I need to pare down everything I wanna take and musn't overweight ourselves.... good think I don't full time yet!
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not unless a termite gets them ... anyone tell me why the wood is smaller and still called 2x4?

Oh, and all this pink stuff shortage talk makes me want to go out and stock up... when I wanted it back in...Oct? there was none to be found at my local wally world... luckily I got the last 2 gallons at O'Reily's. But then, I remember, oh, I have a very small C type RV and I need to pare down everything I wanna take and musn't overweight ourselves.... good think I don't full time yet!
The wood reportedly was 2x4 prior to it being "dressed" but about 1/2 " is removed through that process, well that is the story I was told since I was a boy and I have been around many lumber mills. 2x4 is the rough cut.
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Mel, if you spend your winters in WI... leave your coach outside on in an unheated garage... and don't do anything but gravity drain your freshwater and antifreeze your waste system... and have never had a freeze up??? then you ARE one very lucky camper! I would certainly have to agree with you that I would never recommend anyone else do this. As Grandpa taught me, it is better to Err on the side of caution...
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The first year that I winterized my coach for storage in cold WI winters... (when I was capable of fixing most everything, and thought fixing things was "fun")... I "experimented" with gravity draining.
Because winterizing that way caused no "freeze up" problems, I have not "blown out", (or used RV antifreeze in), my fresh water system when winterizing for 11 years.
I use RV anti-freeze, but only in the waste tanks, the P-traps and the Splendide washer.

BTW, for 9 years I have winterized that way twice each year, (once in Oct.), before we leave WI in Jan. for parts south, (and once again in March), before returning to WI.

My Grandpa taught me to "think out of the box"... (and that "it's often easier to be LUCKY than good")!

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How about just not coming back till April showers bring May Flowers!!!!!!!!!!!
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No anti-freeze that's because some noobs may have overestimated and may have a few years supply sitting in their garage. Not naming names. Hoping pink comes out works

Some industries have already switched over to metric. Heck star trek sometimes used metric. I notice the mythbusters tend to mix both (I wager though that calculations may be done in metric). I know one reason why kids should like metric, all calculations are based on 10. If you need a calculator to convert between deca, milli and centi well then...
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Mel, if that works for you then keep on doing it! Another thing I learned a long time ago was "if it ain't broken... Don't fix it"
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