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Old 01-17-2013, 05:36 PM   #71
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Freedom to communicate is fine to break any law is not. Murder speeding assault it's all breaking laws. Someone can get hurt or killed either way. Now flash lights to help someone driving to possibly help stop an accident fine but to break the law isn't.

Speeding is nothing like murder or asssult, its like compairing apples to oranges. If you were in Indiana would you take a bath during the winter? Well its a law there that you cant. Go to Pine Island Minnesota, everytime you pass a cow in the field you better tip your hat, thats a law too. If one of your headlights blows in the middle of the night, will you instantly stop, park and then walk to a store to buy a headlight because having a blown headlight is against the law. Hey its all breaking the law.

Everyone has went over the speed once in their life, you may not be paying attention, a bad day, nobody knows, all you are doing is trying to help someone avoid a ticket. If you could help avoid/stop a murder or assault you would surely do that.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:13 PM   #72
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I believe that is still a "Virginia" law, and a couple other states I think have it. Now it would take a lot of money but if one could they could fight it. You cannot disallow something that is transmitted over the ether from being listened to by the public. However, constitutional law has been changed by congressional members when one was caught (intercepted) talking on a cell phone to his girl friend. Apparently his wife did not like it when she saw it in the newspaper, so he got the law changed that it is illegal to listen to cell phone traffic. I believe there are some amendments at risk here and could be challenged, if one had the money to do so.
When I was much much younger (physically not mentally) I had one of the twin turbo Chrysler Rockets that managed to cause me all kinds of grief. I ended up buying a very very illegal radar detector and that too caused me grief. The thing (detector) fit into a flat 25 package of DuMaurier cigarettes and thats how I used it. The twin group of three lights were visible through an opening I cut into the side of the package. When it went off I would quickly slow down, pick up the fake cigarettes, turn off the detector, and then slip it into my shirt pocket opening down and drive along awaiting the inevitable stop by the Police. They would search like mad but never once found my detector. I would get pulled over even when I was in slow moving traffic well below the speed limit but to the police a law is a law so I had to be made an example of

I've been gone for a long long time so I'm not sure the law stands.
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last time I traveled in Canada detectors were illegal there. We made a spacer for the passenger side visor, and put an Escort Passport (the original, that was smaller than a cassette tape) between the visor and headliner, ran the wires thru the A-pillar, and had a on/off switch under the dash, so if we did get stopped, we wouldn't be seen trying to turn the thing off.

I wonder how many of the "extremely lawful" citizens contributing to this thread register their MH in another state to avoid property taxes - or neglect to report internet sales taxes on their state forms, and any other number of convenient "unlawful" things that are done.

The europeans don't have a lot of laws, but you damn sure better not break 'em. The US has so many laws, in so many jurisdictions, that "ignorance of the law is no excuse" really doesn't play anymore. And, being a nation of REVOLUTIONARIES - tend to disregard the ones we don't like anyway.
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How do you stop drive by's.

Lets be honest about this, if the Cops can't pull over and search certain people that they think may or may not have a gun in their car when do you think they will be able to stop those not heads from driving by and shooting at you.
Lets face it if cops cant do it who do you think will do it for us?????????
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Lets be honest about this, if the Cops can't pull over and search certain people that they think may or may not have a gun in their car when do you think they will be able to stop those not heads from driving by and shooting at you.
Lets face it if cops cant do it who do you think will do it for us?????????
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Define "certain people".. Because today that may be a group of people you want searched. Tomorrow, that group may include you.
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Some people will use every excuse to try and excuse the fact they are breaking the law. Yes there are old stupid laws on the books but speeding is not one of them. If you speed or assist speeders and you can sleep at night fine. But as your laying there think about the daily fatalities could there be less if speeding wasn't involved. I don't know but I for one want my family and friends to arrive safely. Take care friends.
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... Everyone driving speed road was designed for curves etc. ...
I don't typically speed as we are trying to "recreate" and relax when in our rv... but, have to admit, sometimes that speedometer will read incorrectly high!


to your point about curve design...
I used to work at an engineering firm that designed those highways back in the 70's...

Most of those interstate highways we designed had curvature calculations rated for 80+ mph since the speed limit at the time was 70 and SOME safety margin was designed in

good thing:
75 mph speed limit accelerates across Texas - Houston Chronicle

"...Past Ector County the speed limit already is 80 most of the way to El Paso...."


and what a moniker for a town:
",,,,On I-45, the speed limit goes up between the northern edge of Navarro County - home of the well-known Corsicana speed trap.... "
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Some people will use every excuse to try and excuse the fact they are breaking the law. Yes there are old stupid laws on the books but speeding is not one of them. If you speed or assist speeders and you can sleep at night fine. But as your laying there think about the daily fatalities could there be less if speeding wasn't involved. I don't know but I for one want my family and friends to arrive safely. Take care friends.
Red-herring. Flashing of headlights (regardless of reason) is legally protected speech - and is legal to do so in FL.
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Being the whole point of police activity on highways is supposed to be to slow people down and not collect taxes, I believe we are just assisting the police in slowing down traffic. BTW there is a wide margin of error allowed in the manufacture of the older speedometers. That's where the 10m over under rule supposedly came from.

Just for the heck of it, put your GPS unit to show you your present speed and then drive through one of the odometer check places using your speedometer at 60 MPH. I would be willing to bet the GPS and the timing of the one mile increments vary by more than just a little bit.

I proved that to a friend who was always complaining about people tailgating her when she was doing the speed limit. Her speedometer was reading about 12 klicks high so when she thought she was doing 90 KPH she was actually going just below 80.
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Some people will use every excuse to try and excuse the fact they are breaking the law. Yes there are old stupid laws on the books but speeding is not one of them. If you speed or assist speeders and you can sleep at night fine. But as your laying there think about the daily fatalities could there be less if speeding wasn't involved. I don't know but I for one want my family and friends to arrive safely. Take care friends.
'People breaking laws' is what led to this great nation...
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Being the whole point of police activity on highways is supposed to be to slow people down and not collect taxes, I believe we are just assisting the police in slowing down traffic. BTW there is a wide margin of error allowed in the manufacture of the older speedometers. That's where the 10m over under rule supposedly came from.

Just for the heck of it, put your GPS unit to show you your present speed and then drive through one of the odometer check places using your speedometer at 60 MPH. I would be willing to bet the GPS and the timing of the one mile increments vary by more than just a little bit.

I proved that to a friend who was always complaining about people tailgating her when she was doing the speed limit. Her speedometer was reading about 12 klicks high so when she thought she was doing 90 KPH she was actually going just below 80.
Every '90s plus era car I have had a GPS in worked within 1 mph. 1993 Accord on up...
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One day you may be going down the road and see someone flash their lights at you, and even though you never break the law you still look down at the speedo and realize IM GOING OVER THE SPEED LIMIT

Well you are sure going to be gratefull for that nice guy/gal that warned you
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