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Old 11-23-2013, 02:34 PM   #1
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Is this shameful or what?

Read the entire New York Times article: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/23/bu...desh.html?_r=0
I guess it's not enough to make obscene profits from these poor people in this poor country, these US companies will not even help the victims with medical assistance.
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Old 11-23-2013, 05:58 PM   #2
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If a U.S. corporation were making something sold to India, do you think the company in India should send money to said corporation had an explosion and a lot of workers were hurt and killed? just saying.........
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Old 11-23-2013, 06:14 PM   #3
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Well, Legally the customers have no obligation to support the workers when the factory blows up or falls down.

Morally: Companies like Sears, Wal-Mart and the others listed (I do not recall the entire list) DO have an obligation to make sure the companies they purchase from are treating their workers properly.

Clearly they have failed in this.

So yes, it is shamefull.

What is more shamefull is that WE THE PEOPLE, given choices, still shop wal-mart.

Since my wife (A loyal Wal-marter) has passed. Well, I do go to Wall-mart for some stuff because given my lifestlye there is not always a choice (Meds for example. Wal-mart is one of the very few that covers everywhere I park and the only one that lists most of what I take in it's formulary).

But I have not bought 10% of my groceries there this summer, in fact, I suspect less than 5%. Wife it was about 50.
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Old 11-23-2013, 06:29 PM   #4
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Ok, this may stir some people up, but;
My DGF thinks there's value in shopping at Walmart for those on a budget (or whatever). I call Walmart the "evil empire" and will not shop there on my own accord. Money speaks the loudest and the people like me that won't give them our hard earned cash caused Walmart to listen and changed some of it's ways. On the other hand...

I'd read a book years ago detailing the US companies that did business with nazi Germany during WWII, such as Standard Oil, etc. Money talks, words walks. What are ya really gonna do? Just saying
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Supply and demand. If we did no buy this stuff..........
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Supply and demand. If we did no buy this stuff..........
That is a simplistic answer, and quite accurate.
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Supply and demand. If we did no buy this stuff..........
I agree

same with war, if EVERYONE fighting (both sides) ALL put their weapons on the ground, what would 'they' do ...
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So . . . . how much assistance will you send?
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That's the only reason the companies are there so they don't have liability, don't have to pay American wages or taxes, can pollute as much as they want. Why should this be a surprise.

Did you know the Walmart family has as much wealth as the lower 40% of the American population, now that's a crime. Also most of their employees qualify for food stamps and we are paying for them too.
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Hard to make decisions on what you read in the NY Times. (Don't get me wrong, I think the NY Times is a great paper.) But NY Times business is to sell you a paper and sell ads.
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Old 11-26-2013, 07:44 PM   #11
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Walmart is a business, it is not a crime to make a profit.

Consider: Walmart provides 1.4 million U.S. jobs, and employ's a full 1% of the total work force.
The average Walmart employee makes $11.75 an hour. That's $20,744 per year. Poverty level is $22K. (The national average retail employees wage is only $12/hour.) On the other hand, minimum wage is $7.25 an hour.

Walmart offers benefits to some of its employees, as well as store discounts and profit-sharing plans. Walmart currently pays a lot of taxes. Last year, for example, the company paid $7 billion in taxes.

You chose to do business with them or not.

Ray: I certainly agree these companies ethically bear a responsibility to those suppliers families.
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A different perspective

As I stood and watched a small child squat and assembly gadgets in a Morradobod (sp) India factory, I expressed my horror to my agent and host. To which he turned to me and ask a question I was embarrassed to have been asked. "Who do you think you are to impose your values on a group of people that you have absolutely nothing in common with. The children in that family work so the family can eat. This is not your America." I never purchased another item from that company, however I have never forgotten that fair question. If you could personally see how very different the living conditions are (the smell was beyond words), the quality of the water, the meager amounts of food, etc you might just have a different perspective. I still don't like the idea of a 5 year old working like that. I am more haunted by the living conditions. We Americans are a blessed people.
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I agree WDE. I have a grandson who whines about having to work to support himself(he wants to be a professional gamer) now that he graduated from high school. He never comes to see me now, because I'm always telling him he should work to develop a strong work ethic, which will greatly benefit him as he obtains better jobs; and that itself, is a self-fulfilling strategy.
We U.S.A. citizens as a whole are ignorant about the rest of the world's living conditions and an individual's longevity.
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