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Old 02-04-2012, 08:46 PM   #99
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Originally Posted by JadedDancer View Post
Some of us on this thread, ARE doing our part. I do not eat fast food, I hate it and I don't want to become a fat slob. I don't shop walmart because I think they treat their employees like dirt and I think the quality of what they sell is terrible. I can get the exact same items from other various stores for maybe ten cents or 25 cents more without fear of the product quality control being "dumbed down" to meet walmart's ridiculous price demands. I think I can live with paying a few cents more. It's not gonna kill me. As for street drugs, well never have done them, never will.

So your blanket statement is lost on some people, because they are not doing any of the things you mentioned, HENCE, giving us full rights to say how much we dislike those things without being a hypocrite.
I have a good friend whose son-in-law was almost killed in a car accident. He was a talented software developer. After months of therapy he was able to get a job at the local WalMart.
WalMart hired him and he is able to contribute to his family. Doesn't sound to me like they're treating him like "dirt". In fact, it beats the heck out of living off the government dime, which he could do.
I'm no huge fan of WalMart, I buy local when I can, but no one can tell me they don't serve a purpose and or give back to the community!

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And this thread isnt gonna start any flame wars... noooo siree...

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The math is simple. You want to survive compete. You want to be greedy you will be run out of town. I have 4 family members that work for Walmart and they are satisfied with their employee rights. Most worked for small business owners prior and the things those people put them through we're boarder line criminal. Small businesses don't have to follow the Same employment rules major employers do and they take full advantage of that.

To all the commie bashers: communism Is dead man (overseas anyway). I spent several years in the far east and there is more capitalism going on over there than there is here. Communism is control and that is what your mom and pop stores had on small communities until big box stores forced them to compete or leave. My obligation is to providing for my family, not over paying on the same item to send mom and pop on their yearly cruise. Th the Walmarts, Lowes and Menards I say thank you for placing actual product value back in the equation.
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1961 - It's not about WM vs mom-and-pops, it's about where the stuff in Wal-mart (and every other big box, because they all have to compete with WM) is made.

If your 4 family members are happy with a "career" in big box retailing, fine, but that's not going to do much for middle class america.

When you end up working multiple jobs in big-box retail because your manufacturing job got outsourced those cheap chinese Wal-mart goods will look a lot different.
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.......They are targeting rural areas. Another significant difference is that Sears and Wards resold merchandise were WalMart is not reseling.... They are manipulating the supply chain and dictating/controlling the manufacturing.
Yes this is defintly the choking of mom and pop stores.

I do not think sears and montgomery ward killed mom and pop stores like china-mart does.
THey were mainly catalog sales years ago.
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In a Southpark episode the kid's were trying to find a way to stop Walmart from taking all the business away from small businesses in their town and in the end they had to break the mirror at the back of the store to stop it. Meaning: look in the mirror if you want to know why Walmart is successful.

I'm reminded of the always famous Walt kelly line in his Pogo comic strip from the fifties.... Pogo reflects, "We have met the enemy, and it is us."

We've been the Walmart-like sheep forever, even before Walmart existed. They offer low prices, we respond..... Yes, it is capitalism, but one might ponder, where is the competition, or when might it show up?
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That's why you have to love America, shop wherever you like, Walmart or Mom & Pop but don't try to close off the options we have. Most Walmart bashing is at the hands of the unions. If Walmart were to become unionized, the anti Walmart bashing would decline significantly.

Maybe. it all depoends on if they want treat thier employees with dignity and respect and stop paying substandard wages.
I doubt they will.
untill they do I ONLY buy things there that I can't find anywhere else.
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As everyone drives their Korean, German, Japanese car to the Walmart, talking on their Chinese cell phone, walking on Thailand made Nike's, and then buying all the junk they sell in Walmart because it is cheap, they next drive to the unemployment office to pick up their check and wonder where their jobs went to....

Say goodbye to the furniture industry, clothing, manufacturing, automotive, appliances. The Maytag Man speaks chinese. Tools, Harbor Freight is booming, the list goes on and on. Outsource, call customer service and get China, Romania, India.

Blame? Excessive regulation, unions, high taxes? Corporate greed? Send our factories to China. By raising the standard of living in China and making a most favored trading partner they will buy our exports? Buying cheap China junk will put more money in our pockets? Buy a company, fire it's employees, send the production to China, take the cash and saddle it with debt, this is the new capitalism, private equity firms. So what if the company goes bankrupt.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. You want good jobs but you want cheap prices, you say American cars are junk and one of the greatest industries in the world becomes a ghost town, local hardware store was too expensive, now we pay $5.00 for a box of nails at Home Depot.

Wall St wants profits for their investors, they don't give a damn about the country or the employees. Close HP production, send jobs to China, give the CEO a 28 million dollar bonus, and sell the printer for the same price while making it for 1/10 of what it cost to make in the US.

No one is to blame more than ourselves. We chose cheap over quality and never protested when a toaster that lasted 20 years only lasts 1 year because it is so cheap - just buy another one.

Look at all the things we have settled for. Nobody in the 50's or 60's would buy the junk they pass off today. Cars were made of chrome and steel, appliances were porcelain, a faucet was bronce and weighed 10 pounds, nails didn't bend when you looked at them crossways.

What will our children find waiting for them when they graduate? Good jobs?

Not even picking grapes is an option, they all come from South America now.
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jamesgr81...you get it....it is a shame everyone else doesn't
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jamesgr81...you get it....it is a shame everyone else doesn't
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jamesgr81 does get it. Hit the nail square on the head.
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No one is to blame more than ourselves. .
We said this on page one James lol.
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jamesgr81...you get it....it is a shame everyone else doesn't
Amen to that! Americans today just don't get it,,, They will when they lose their job!

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