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Old 11-17-2013, 08:25 AM   #29
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[QUOTE=PTJeep;1809628]I have never had a leak with my freedom top at all, and its been through lots of rain storms you do have the large screw in nobs that go in the speaker rail that is above the drivers head ?[/QUOTE]
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:47 AM   #30
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Jeeps won the war. Hondas mow your grass. Toyotas make tree huggers happy!
Yea I figured I would get a response with this post. Actually I have owned 3 Jeeps in the past. All including the Toyota have been great vehicles. The last one , a 99 Grand Cherokee is still in the family with 250k.
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Here is our 2008 Rubicon. Has 35 inch tires, 5.13 gears, aluminum flares and steel bumpers with winch. We have about 50,000 miles on the odo and about 30,000 towing:
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:10 AM   #32
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:14 AM   #33
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Here is our 2008 Rubicon. Has 35 inch tires, 5.13 gears, aluminum flares and steel bumpers with winch. We have about 50,000 miles on the odo and about 30,000 towing:

Looks lifted also, I would assume with 35's
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:51 AM   #35
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Here's my 06 Liberty. Last year built with 2.8 TD. Live the torque. Hit the mountains and she don't slow down with the AC blasting. About. A year away from getting the off-road stuff for it.
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I have never had a leak with my freedom top at all, and its been through lots of rain storms you do have the large screw in nobs that go in the speaker rail that is above the drivers head ?[/QUOTE]
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Hi palehorse,

Sorry to read you are having leakage problems on your Jeep, maybe the seals are just not up to snuff, its really hard to say. I like the soft tops as well, but since my Jeep is our daily driver as well as our magic carpet to less traveled areas I didnt want to deal with the higher noise levels associated with the soft top. Another reason is that we were originally from Michigan and a hard top holds the heat in better, or a/c depending on where you are.

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Hi palehorse,

Sorry to read you are having leakage problems on your Jeep, maybe the seals are just not up to snuff, its really hard to say. I like the soft tops as well, but since my Jeep is our daily driver as well as our magic carpet to less traveled areas I didnt want to deal with the higher noise levels associated with the soft top. Another reason is that we were originally from Michigan and a hard top holds the heat in better, or a/c depending on where you are.

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Jeff, I am talking about a hard top, that is what mine is and it has had the roof and door seals replaced over a dozen times! I moved it out into the rain after my last post and the drivers floor is getting wet this morning! I just got it back from the dealer last week and they said it was fixed(again for the 6th time) and not leaking.H ummmmmm what to do now?
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What a bunch of nice look-in jeeps, now I have to ask the owners with the Freedom tops does yours leak, do your floors get wet? Mine has been to the dealer 6 times for the "wet floor" (both sides) problem. At the end of the 3rd time It qualified for the Pa. lemon law but I don't want to get rid of it, I just want it fixed but they have been failing and time is running out. Towed it through 2 days of rain coming back from out west and both floors were flooded! Back to the dealer, I am going to put it outside today as it is raining here today.
Our stock Wrangler is almost 2 years old and we have never taken the tops off. Occasionally during a "frog strangler" with blowing rain we get a small leak directly over the dashboard, so we just put a towel there and get on with life. There is a recall on the Jeep, so when we take it in for that we will have them LOOK at the leak...but I doubt they will be able to fix it. Just a part of the "Jeep experience."
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At the risk of sounding like a total knob, I'll ask other JK owners if a soft top is worth the hassle? As I said in another post, we haven't ever taken the hardtop off...mostly because we worry that water leaks, wind noise, etc. will get worse if we do. The Jeep is my hubby's DD and we aren't off-roaders nor mudders...GASP!! We bought the Jeep because it's an easy toad and looks cute behind the Bounder....haha.
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This one is stock, but I love it. It has more miles being towed than it has on the odometer. It is a blast to drive.
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Jeff, I am talking about a hard top, that is what mine is and it has had the roof and door seals replaced over a dozen times! I moved it out into the rain after my last post and the drivers floor is getting wet this morning! I just got it back from the dealer last week and they said it was fixed(again for the 6th time) and not leaking.H ummmmmm what to do now?

Yeah I knew you were talking about your hard top, mine is a hardtop as well, but like I said I have never had a leak with it and its a 2008, my brother also has a 2008 and his has never leaked either, it makes me wonder if there was some kind of design change in the later models I hope not cause someday I'll be getting another Jeep, but not until I wear this one out, sometimes tracing leaks is a never ending job. I would think your Jeep dealer would just completely disassemble the whole top and windshield area and rebuild it completely new and make it right, or has that already been done ?
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At the risk of sounding like a total knob, I'll ask other JK owners if a soft top is worth the hassle? As I said in another post, we haven't ever taken the hardtop off...mostly because we worry that water leaks, wind noise, etc. will get worse if we do. The Jeep is my hubby's DD and we aren't off-roaders nor mudders...GASP!! We bought the Jeep because it's an easy toad and looks cute....haha.
Hey Sarah !!

X2 on being an easy toad, cause they are, ours is a daily driver as well, but ya just gotta get it off road and see things you cant see from the pavement, we love moderate trails, I havent gotten my wife to agree to hard trails yet, but I keep trying, but there are so many places to go off road that you just have to try it once, get it down into 4-wheel low and just have fun. You will be amazed at what you can see.

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