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Old 09-16-2007, 06:27 PM   #1
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What was life like before we were all internet junkies and how did we manage with questions and problems then? All RV vehicles are complex rigs with the class "A" generally topping the list for complicated contraptions and that has never been so true as now with the many options and features available today. With these many new inovations comes challenges, understanding them, using them and fixing them.

I have thought back as to how we got technical help 10 or so years back. Well, first, it didn't seem that rigs had that many issues. Also, much of the features were found in our autos or homes, so understanding seemed to come somewhat natural. But now that's all changed. We need specialists to electronically adjust what used to be mechanical. Components designed specifically for mobile use have replaced those household twins. Yes, the days we used to think a scuzzy drive was a motor trip from Gary Iniana to Cleveland with your mother-in-law are gone.

So, what if we didn't now have avenues like irv2.com? Where would we get help, encouragement and advise? The dealer? Think again, many don't have the experience on the use and application of many of these devices. I know I've been helped when an issue has arose. Like anything else, you get good info and not so good data, but it finally does solve it. How about some new motor homes with tons of issues and problems. While they have to be addressed at the factory or dealer, these forums help us understand we are not alone, as others are experiencing similar issues. That is great encouragement and help in itself.

So, I guess these forums are more than good entertainment, and that they are too, but educational, interesting, a chance to help and be helped, and a great emotional support when things go wrong. Thanks irv2.com.

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What was life like before we were all internet junkies and how did we manage with questions and problems then? All RV vehicles are complex rigs with the class "A" generally topping the list for complicated contraptions and that has never been so true as now with the many options and features available today. With these many new inovations comes challenges, understanding them, using them and fixing them.

I have thought back as to how we got technical help 10 or so years back. Well, first, it didn't seem that rigs had that many issues. Also, much of the features were found in our autos or homes, so understanding seemed to come somewhat natural. But now that's all changed. We need specialists to electronically adjust what used to be mechanical. Components designed specifically for mobile use have replaced those household twins. Yes, the days we used to think a scuzzy drive was a motor trip from Gary Iniana to Cleveland with your mother-in-law are gone.

So, what if we didn't now have avenues like irv2.com? Where would we get help, encouragement and advise? The dealer? Think again, many don't have the experience on the use and application of many of these devices. I know I've been helped when an issue has arose. Like anything else, you get good info and not so good data, but it finally does solve it. How about some new motor homes with tons of issues and problems. While they have to be addressed at the factory or dealer, these forums help us understand we are not alone, as others are experiencing similar issues. That is great encouragement and help in itself.

So, I guess these forums are more than good entertainment, and that they are too, but educational, interesting, a chance to help and be helped, and a great emotional support when things go wrong. Thanks irv2.com.

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Old 09-16-2007, 06:43 PM   #3
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Peter, thanks for a nice post....

We are fortunate here on iRV2 to have RV owners from all walks of life who can come to these forums and share their knowledge and experience.

You Sir have yourself helped a good many members with your fact filled posts on many different subjects.

These forums are a source not only for information and knowledge, but as many of us have also learned, a source to plan get togethers where we can see the faces behind the keyboards...

I've thoroughly enjoyed meeting many of you in my travels around the country and look forward to meeting many more of you in the future.

This is also linked to the general forums for more coverage....
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Old 09-16-2007, 06:43 PM   #4
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The affect is really two fold. We all get together as like minded individuals and have a place to hang out and chat regardless of where we are at the time physically. This naturally allows us to share our experiences, both good and bad, with each other. The internet certainly has revolutionized communication and its mostly all for the good.

One downside is that we see only a tiny sample of the actual Newmar owners or RV owners on the other sites. Most people simply do not post, although that will change as the next generations grow up and start RVing. However it does create an issue and that is bad news travels fast where good news is hard to find. People are much more likely to come here to complain than they are to praise and the same holds true for other RV sites. Its a shame too because new rvrs can get scared away from all the negativity which can be found and its important to remember to take pretty much everything you see on the net with a giant grain of salt.

Sure some sites like this one are simply outstanding. That said this is the exception and not the norm in my experience.
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:23 AM   #5
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I would have to agree with Aridon , that alot of posts are related to "issues" regarding RVs and RVing. Hopefully, someone contemplating an RV will understand that the positives far out weigh the negatives for most of us.

I started my research for a fifth wheel on the net and saved a ton of money because of information on here and several other sites. (Yes, I lurked here for several years before joining). The financial savings continued thru my second fifth wheel and now my MH. That information alone made web research on this site and others a huge benefit by its self.

Then there is the repair information, useage questions, and all of the other wealth of information available that increases the value of RV web sites.

Finally, and most importantly, this site has got to be the friendliest group of folks on an RV website that I have experienced. Congratulations to the moderators and owners of IRV2 for making this a warm and friendly place to visit (which is not always the norm on internet forums).

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Old 09-18-2007, 08:19 AM   #6
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My sentiments exactly. I wish I had found this forum last year when I bought my first RV. It was in the shop too many times to count. The last straw was when it had an electrical fire and was in the shop 2 months. Got it back and the TV's and Microwave were inoperable. Finally gave up and bought a new one. Hopefully it won't have as many problems. If it does have problems, I know I have a place to go to.

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Old 09-20-2007, 03:42 AM   #7
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Having been RVing for around 30 years the only thing that compares to this forum is when we gather at our MH club rallys and talk to others about our or their problems. The difference here is that we are from all over the country and etc.as was stated. I still find out new things and answers on this forum and hope to for a very long time.
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Old 09-20-2007, 04:19 AM   #8
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Peter - I can not image what it would be like without these forums. Sure, as DSouthw524 says you can get some of this info at rallys, but . . . what about when you are stuck somewhere? The forums have saved my bacon more than once, and got me on the road again.

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Great topic Lug_Nut.
I have learned so much from these forums. So many "how to" tips.
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It is interesting I found this topic today...

Just Yesterday, I was talking to the park owner here in Saint Louis. This park was built 25 years ago. At that time no doubt was pretty State of the art for what it was. Today, it shows it's age somewhat, even though the owners are pretty meticulous. Things such as site size and the number of 50 amp sites. No one needed room for slide outs, and most rigs were just getting a 30 amp service if that.

We were also talking about what else has changed, as in the RV'er. First she said that the rally's and reunions really faded out, that they were much ore popular even 10 years ago. He exact words were "These baby boomer's are leader's not followers and really don't want to be with big groups..." So not only are rigs getting more complex, the way people get the information has shifted from face to face to the internet.

Another interesting change she said was the length of stays and how busy she as been this year. She told me this was the busiest summer in many years, and most of the stays were longer. She also has seen a huge increase in the number of long term (more than 3 month) residents, especially contract workers like Derek and I.

In talking with my Aunt a couple weeks ago about RV life from yesteryear the one big difference we both decided made the largest difference was the increased ease of communication. My aunt Full-timed for a term of 10 years in an Air Stream trailer. They started in the late 70's. Things like mail forwarding, and even making a phone call were much more difficult. Today we really take for granted the internet, cellular phones, and this forum. I find it hard to imagine how we would cope without a cell phone or an internet connection.

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The knowledge base that is on this forum is just flat amazing. Compared to many other sites that I have briefly visited. And it is all shared with a minimum amount of hazing and disrespect. Thats why I hang around....

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Agree with everyone...this site is truly amazing and too helpful to really describe.

As Lug Nut said, I could not imagine owning a toy as complex as a motorhome without access to the folks here and the information provided. In addition to the enjoyment of participating in the forums and the fellowship, IRV2 has saved me a lot of $$$ on repairs.
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I enjoy the general chatter and interaction. But I think the best part of sites like this is illustrated by my current breakdown (under another topic). Not only am I able to get online and quickly talk with many people that have the EXACT COACH that I have and fix the problem. But, I have also been contacted by two IRV2 members that happen to be in the town I am stuck in and was offered help in any way possible.

This is value that you could not get jsut a few years ago. This list was invaluable in this week of chaos! Thank you Bob and everyone else for the resource.
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