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Old 10-23-2015, 06:34 PM   #1
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Lifting wheels off ground when leveling

I have observed and have done, lift wheels off the ground when leveling. Some have wood chocked under the tires most don't. Should wood be placed under the tire (safety?) or is it okay to leave them lifted (short term). Assuming wood should be placed under the tire I guess one would have to raise the jacks, move the MH onto the appropriate tires wood?
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Old 10-23-2015, 06:36 PM   #2
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On our previous MH, a '02 Dutch Star DP I posed the question to Spartan, Newmar, Reyco-Granning and HWH.
All of them said it was no problem so I did it for months at a time for 13 years with no trouble. HOWEVER it was only the front axle, never the rear as once the rear tires leave the ground the parking brake is no longer viable.
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Old 10-23-2015, 07:52 PM   #3
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Taking the rear off the ground puts a lot of stress on the chassis frame. If you look at where the axle is and where the jack is you are shifting the point carrying the weight quite a bit. It "should" handle it just fine but it's not a good idea to take the risk. Best to put blocks under the low rear wheels so that the leveling system starts out only a degree or two out of level, if the rear end of the coach is starting out lower than the front end.
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Old 10-24-2015, 07:59 AM   #4
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I get how sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, but if this is a campground, and you somehow ended up with a site that was that far off level, just ask for another. Lifting a front wheel off the ground often leads to needing a ladder to get in and out of the entry door....
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Old 10-24-2015, 10:19 AM   #5
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On a trailer.. No comment
On a motor home:
Most Gassers the parking brake is a drive shaft brake, that means ALL the rear wheels need to be in firm contact with the ground or with some type of ground "extension" (2x12) or a strong gust of wind from the front or rear (or side) and your jacks can become pretzles at $500@ plus installation fees (Several hours since you need to drop the gas tank less you cheat as I will. NO that is not what I did to ruin one only jack).

And likewise at least ONE front wheel needs firm contact to prevent pretzling from a side wind.

On a DP with air brakes and both rear wheels the service brakes are the parking brakes.. you have a bit more flexibilioty but you still need to insure that ride can not move front to back or side to side because the jacks are NOT designed for side loads (Front and back are also sides) they are designed to hole it UP not keep it from moving.
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:42 PM   #6
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You do not need wood blocks what you need is a different place to park. There is nothing safe about lifting the tires off the ground with your jacks.
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If you're a capable rigger and know your way around jacks and cribbing you can easily make it work. Like if you're a boilermaker, ironworker, millwright or machinery mover.
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I suppose that would work, Rig up something from a nearby large Oak Tree or carry along some steal I beams to weld up should also work.
You might read the owners manual on your jacks and I would bet there is a paragraph that states to never use the jacks to lift tires from the ground.
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Old 11-09-2015, 06:40 PM   #9
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I don't like to lift the tires off the ground.
I travel with 6 2x8's in two and three ft. lengths. If I run into a park which is not real level, such as many state and other public parks, I determine which tire needs to be lifted a bit and place the boards on the ground, then drive up onto them. Then I level the coach. If it needs more than that I move.
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Old 11-10-2015, 09:35 AM   #10
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I'll lift the fronts if needed to level. I never lift the rears because of the parking brake.

If using blocking follow Michelin's guide shown below.

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