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Old 12-23-2014, 10:41 PM   #57
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Very few Ladies left. Gloria Steinem took care of that !
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Is a woman NOT a lady if she has more than 5 tattoos?
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Old 12-24-2014, 10:51 AM   #59
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Is a woman NOT a lady if she has more than 5 tattoos?
Careful now.
My youngest daughter has more than 5 tattoos and she is very much a lady and appreciative of good manners.
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My granddaughter also has tattoos but knows better and respects herself more than to talk like a drunken sailor.
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Old 12-24-2014, 02:51 PM   #61
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amazing how perspectives change over the yrs. anything can be made to fit any criteria with enough time and rationalization.
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Old 12-25-2014, 01:17 PM   #62
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Here in the RGV you can take your hat off in the restaurant...
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Old 12-25-2014, 01:37 PM   #63
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This topic of manners got me thinking, I love to point this out to the old guys I hang out with.

It's mostly the guys that don't have any hair that wear hats. I always point out to my pals when they ask me how come I don't wear a hat, I answer "I don't have to, I have hair'. See an old guy wearing a hat, probably bald.

Manners are not lost, just almost never taught to the younger generation (a generality, not applicable to all kids). My father was very well educated and had excellent manners, me too, and my kid.

It's all part of the older generation, better educated, better manners. Generally speaking, but there are many grumpy old guys around too. I am the odd man out, I have become way more tolerant in my later years, things that were so vital in our youth are just not worth getting excited about any more.

Are things really different between our fathers, ourselves, and the young people?

I don't know but I do know that Old Age and Treachery will always defeat Youth and Skill...
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Old 12-25-2014, 01:59 PM   #64
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Dennis... before your folks were grown... spitting used to be ok...in fact... there used to be spittoons in buildings for that purpose, then TB became a serious threat and spitting in public on streets and such became taboo.
It may be ok for alot of people but not for me. Cave men used to eat raw meat and drag women around by their hair. Not acceptable today, the hair part anyway!

Spitting may have been ok before my folks were grown, and as I never met my one grandfather on my dad's side, I did hear alot about him. My dad was taught manners and would have never spit on a sidewalk where others had to walk. Yes there were spittoons in public places for those mostly that chewed tobacco. At least they had the manners to use them.

Tb may have been a threat back then but think of all the health hazards we have now. When you take your shoes off at home what have you brought home that you have walked through on the side walk.

It is still disgusting behavior in my book. I worked a as logger with some pretty rough individuals and most of them knew how to act in public.

I can't say I learned all my manners that stayed with me at home. Manners used to be taught and enforced in public school. The new Me generation think it is unnecessary. The lack of manners displayed in alot of businesses these days makes me wonder how some of these people got jobs. They would not have got hired back in the day when I was out looking for jobs.
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Dennis... did cavemen really drag women around by their hair??? :-)
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Count me among those who still open doors and removes my hat in a restaurant.

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If your entire party sits down in the restaurant wearing hats, and you are the only one to take yours off, who is not following the norm?
Following the norm has never been my objective.

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I think the reference to the decline of the Roman Empire is very appropriate. When courtesy for your fellow citizens starts falling to the wayside, anarchy isn't far away. This is a basic overview of history.
When the Roman Empire fell it was followed by the "Dark Ages". A time of everyone for themselves and a loss of knowledge. When we reached the "Age of Enlightenment" (The Renaissance) we were on a path of common courtesy, which I believe peaked before the beginning of the twentieth century. The last century has seen a rapid decline in respect and courtesy.
As with all things there will be pockets of resistance but ultimately all will fall.
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Did ya'll know my spouse's grandma told me when she was a kid... they got sent home for ever scratching their head in public... lice or no... it was not tolerated...bad manners it was called... If kiddos back then could resist the urge to scratch... they had far more self control than most everyone I see nowadays!
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Did ya'll know my spouse's grandma told me when she was a kid... they got sent home for ever scratching their head in public... lice or no... it was not tolerated...bad manners it was called... If kiddos back then could resist the urge to scratch... they had far more self control than most everyone I see nowadays!
Ya got me scratching my head on that one Marty... lol. Hope Bob is feeling better and you're having a great day!
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Aren't manners synonymous with the norm? We were taught to eat with our mouth closed and quietly. One of my coworkers was a fairly recent Chinese immigrant. When several of us had lunch together, he would make smacking sounds and slurp his soup loudly. Correct me if I am wrong, but I understand that is intended to be a compliment to the cook in some cultures. He was not following the norm and as a result was perceived to be ill-mannered.
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