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Old 02-10-2013, 03:39 PM   #43
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I have been finger printed many times -- for a civil service job in the 70's, as a foster parent in the 90’s and last week at the entry gate to Walt Disney World (so I can't give sell or give away any unused days on my entry pass).

With facial recognition software becoming more sophisticated, before long you will have to wear a disguise whenever you are out of your safe place if you ever want to get away with anything. I find it easier to behave as society expects me to and not worry about the "if you give an inch, they'll take a mile" doomsayers.
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I consider my dna and fingerprints and my Social Security number personal property unless I break the law.
I can't understand, with criminal record checks, why an employer would need our fingerprints.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:00 PM   #45
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Off topic, but related to you post - maybe someone will move it to maybe...a privacy thread? (this is 'just conversation...)
Why does your employer request your fingerprints?
Why would the Bank of America want my fingerprints to cash a traveller's cheque?
Why does everyone in the US want their citizen's Social Security number?
Well, The job I was printed for was security guard, They run the prints against the convict records to make sure I have not been one, Later I went to work as a police dispatcher.

My daughter is a teacher, and child protection laws require she be fingerprinted. Same reason as above.

I can not speak for Bank of America but .. Well, might help ID you if you are cashing checks not yours to cash.

Social Security number.. Some states now have laws requiring SSN for driver's license applications, Some only for CDL.. But if you are applying for a job, They need your SSN so they can report your earnings to the IRS, Some others need to report your payments to the IRS, and again that means they need your SSN.

Some ask for your SSN who are not entitled to it, Those you can tell to take a SSH (Short Sweet Hike) if you like.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:58 PM   #46
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Some ask for your SSN who are not entitled to it, Those you can tell to take a SSH (Short Sweet Hike) if you like.
Some people are not aware of this - somehow.

The bank should know that traveller's cheques only require matching signatures. Especially a bank manager!
A driver's licence with signature and photo, credit card with signature and photo, and passport ought to be enough ID to cash a travellers cheque without fingerprints.
In Canada there are only three places to share our SIN: The bank, and the employer, and the government - for tax purposes. Nobody else is entitled to it, and most people know this.
In US, our experience has been automated phone services for cable, internet, rentals, they all require SS# to be entered before you can proceed with business. Makes it difficult for Canadians to do business with them. Thanks for your reply.

....we now return to our regular programming: Micro-chipping dogs.
apologies for going off topic...
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Bringing this back on topic: I am going to chip Annie at the next vet visit in March. I have come to the realization that chipping her has more benefit than not chipping her.

As for people, it has NOTHING to do with privacy and everything to do with CONTROL. People are willing to give up their FREEDOM for a false sense of security, and now we live in North Korea. What's done is done.
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As for people, it has NOTHING to do with privacy and everything to do with CONTROL. People are willing to give up their FREEDOM for a false sense of security, and now we live in North Korea. What's done is done.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Benjamin Franklin thinks we shouldn't microchip our dogs?
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Who needs to microchip people when we have facebook, credit cards, border crossings, medical plans...... there is no privacy, indeed, but I don't want to let anything get under my skin! Keep good care of your pets, as you do your children, and microchipping them won't be necessary. JMHO
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