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Old 12-11-2014, 06:42 PM   #1
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Mileage Mentality

I always seems strange to me that people get very concerned about the mileage on a class A MH.
At the other end of the stick people with fivers and trailers do not seem to worry about how many miles they drive per year.
My brother in law pulls his fiver all over the country, is on his second truck but has made the comment to me that my coach is high mileage (105K).

The fivers and trailers bounce around the road a lot more than a heavy coach. The trucks put on lots of miles, etc.
Many four cylinder cars have several hundred thousand on them.

Why are we worried about a coach designed for a million miles to be over the hill at 50K????
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Old 12-11-2014, 06:48 PM   #2
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...Why are we worried about a coach designed for a million miles to be over the hill at 50K????...
Never heard that before...why would anybody be worried about the mileage on a diesel? Since most of us average 6/7000 a year, we'll never get high mileage on our MHs anyway.
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IMHO the people who worry about the mileage on a Class A DP are thinking in terms of automobiles and don't realize that heavy duty diesels are designed to run ~750,000 miles before needing their first in-frame overhaul. What's also often overlooked is that a low mileage MH may have been used by snowbirds who lived in it for 5-6 months each year, therefore, the wear and tear on the interior may be far more than on a similar MH with much higher mileage. Lastly, it's worth noting that NADA doesn't even include mileage when calculating the value of a DP.
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I'd never heard anyone mention that until you. The only mileage concerns I've ever read or heard about is fuel mileage. BTW, I've never heard of anyone towing a trailer complain about wearing out an engine either. The Cummins, Ford and Chevrolet diesel engines will all run 500,000 miles before requiring an overhaul if the factory maintenance schedule is followed. I knew a guy who delivered new 5ers for a living. His Dodge/Cummins had, at that time, 700,000 miles on it without an overhaul.
I suspect someone is pulling your leg.
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Don't be so hard on the OP. I frequent the RV forums a lot and have encountered numerous discussions where someone is "agonizing" whether he should buy a DP with 125,000 miles or one with 75,000 miles even though he likes the first one more. Lots of people seem to have no understanding that these engines and transmissions are made to go many more miles than most of their RV owners will ever be able to drive them!
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Don't be so hard on the OP. I frequent the RV forums a lot and have encountered numerous discussions where someone is "agonizing" whether he should buy a DP with 125,000 miles or one with 75,000 miles even though he likes the first one more. Lots of people seem to have no understanding that these engines and transmissions are made to go many more miles than most of their RV owners will ever be able to drive them!

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Realistically, motor homes used in recreational use never put hundreds of thousands of miles--no matter how long the drivetrain is going to last. People just don't travel 600 miles every day of the year.

The high dollar Prevost type units with heavy mile usage are for rock bands doing one nighters and NASCAR teams. Most of them will be traded relatively often. And they're all custom built. Some are made for transporting a band--bunk beds. A "star" might have his configured with one big bedroom suite in back.

While engines may last 500k-600K before a major overhaul, such units are very expensive to maintain--including generators, brakes and chassis upkeep. Their diesel generators would power a small city.

And don't think that a 1 ton diesel pickup truck will go any 700K miles. There are some hotshotters out there pulling very light loads in very high mileage situations. But individuals may realistically get 350K-400K out of their engines, and much less on transmissions. I'm using one to tow a 5th wheel.
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I don't know where you are getting this worried about mileage thing. I've been researching rvs for a year now and reading a lot of forums. Never heard a peep about this issue.

Some are worried about miles per gallon, so maybe you are confused.
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There have been a couple topics asking about high mileage units. I was the OP of one of them. I was looking at a 2011 MADP with 110K mi. That deal fell through on the dealer's end, but I was intent on pursuing it. Another topic by someone else was about an older unit, maybe 10-14 years old with over 100K. My question was more about the RV related systems of the rig.
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I don't know where you are getting this worried about mileage thing. I've been researching rvs for a year now and reading a lot of forums. Never heard a peep about this issue.

Some are worried about miles per gallon, so maybe you are confused.
Some of us have been on these forums for a lot more than a year. I'm not sure how the fact that you haven't encountered such a thread makes our saying we have seen them any less believable.
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[QUOTE=RodgerS;2343771

Some are worried about miles per gallon, so maybe you are confused.[/QUOTE]

MPG is a far cry from miles on the odometer.
I may be getting older, but I still know the difference.
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Look at it this way, when you see a very low mileage MH, that usually means it has sat un-used for a long time. Most often sitting un-used is harder on everything than continual or frequent use.
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It is true that the long block of a diesel engine is engineered to run for hundreds of thousands of miles. That doesn't mean that you won't be getting a ton of money tied up in peripherals that require repair over time. Even with the best of preventative maintenance, you can have failure of alternators, thermostats, belts, hoses, idlers, radiators, fan bearings (for both rear or side radiators), CAC, AC pumps, air compressors, turbos, heater cores, brakes, suspension air bags, water pumps, injector pumps, lift pumps, injectors, seals, and the list goes on.

Everyone who reads this can probably add another item that can fail to this list. I'm talking items that fail due primarily due to wear associated with mileage, not due to time alone. Each item is expensive to repair, and soon a higher mileage unit can rack up tens of thousands of $ in repair bills.

So, if you can convince yourself that higher mileage units are worth as much as a lower mileage unit (all other things being equal) then more power to you. I would just caution you to have a careful inspection of a higher mileage unit, and good repair/maintenance records available.
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It is true that the long block of a diesel engine is engineered to run for hundreds of thousands of miles. That doesn't mean that you won't be getting a ton of money tied up in peripherals that require repair over time. Even with the best of preventative maintenance, you can have failure of alternators, thermostats, belts, hoses, idlers, radiators, fan bearings (for both rear or side radiators), CAC, AC pumps, air compressors, turbos, heater cores, brakes, suspension air bags, water pumps, injector pumps, lift pumps, injectors, seals, and the list goes on.

Everyone who reads this can probably add another item that can fail to this list. I'm talking items that fail due primarily due to wear associated with mileage, not due to time alone. Each item is expensive to repair, and soon a higher mileage unit can rack up tens of thousands of $ in repair bills.

So, if you can convince yourself that higher mileage units are worth as much as a lower mileage unit (all other things being equal) then more power to you. I would just caution you to have a careful inspection of a higher mileage unit, and good repair/maintenance records available.

I'm sure that what you say here can be true but my personal experience doesn't bare it out. Our full time coach is nearly 12 years old with 100k on the clock. We purchased the 3 year old coach in '06 and moved in full time in '07. Its been to Alaska; coast to coast and Maine to Key West to Seattle to San Diego It's been home. In the time we've owned our coach it has never let us down. It has responded to the key every time. There have been a hand full of repairs to various chassis systems that total well short of $1k. I keep up with PM and do most myself. The 3 A/C units are OEM and will die at some point. The OEM TVs have been replaced. The Norcold is gone and a 22' residential is in its place. We are happier with our coach than we would be with a new one because we have made it our own.


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