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Old 11-18-2012, 10:15 PM   #99
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Well now we all see that you even believe in "the boggie man"
Have you in your travels in life ever encountered a UFT? (UN-IDENTIFIED FLYING TWINKIE)
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I never ate a twinkie and have no desire to.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:58 AM   #103
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Wow,,,, Only have 3 boxes of Twinkies left over now,,,, hehehe
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:04 AM   #104
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I don't recall ever eating a Twinkie. Of course there seems to be a lot of things I don't recall any more.

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Isn't it amazing how much you miss something when it's gone? I haven't had a Twinkie in probably 40 years, but I have this sudden craving.......

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I don't like Twinkies but I do (did) like those Zingers!
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:27 AM   #107
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The Mexican buyer would be Bimbo Bakeries USA - U.S. Division of Grupo Bimbo - Arnold, Bimbo, Boboli, Brownberry, Entenmann's, Francisco, Freihofer's, Marinela, Mrs Baird's, Oroweat, Stroehmann, Thomas', Tia Rosa They started out making a Wonder Bread like bread, and have a line of junk pastries that would gag a maggot. And they have plenty of plants around the US to make the product.

How does one afford a Dutch Star on $9.19/hour?
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:31 AM   #108
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By Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union

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KENSINGTON, Md., Nov. 13, 2012 -- /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- In a desperate attempt to break the solidarity and resolve of striking BCTGM members across the country, Hostess Brands is falsely claiming that its decision to close three of its bakeries -- St. Louis, Cincinnati and Seattle -- is the result of the nationwide strike against the company by BCTGM members.
In fact, according to the company's 1113 filing with the bankruptcy court earlier this year as well as its last/best/final and non-negotiable proposal to its BCTGM-represented workers, the company was planning to close at least nine bakeries as part of its reorganization plan, although the company refused to disclose which bakeries it intended to close. This is in addition to the three bakeries that were to be closed as a result of the company's planned sale of its Merita division.
Moreover, St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay was quoted in a November 13 KMOX-CBS St. Louis article stating, "I was told months ago they were planning on closing the site in St. Louis… And there was no indication at that time it had anything to do with the strike the workers were waging."
BCTGM International Union President Frank Hurt stated, "The recent claim by Hostess CEO Greg Rayburn that our strike is the reason for the closure of the three bakeries is simply not true. That statement is a continuation of a disturbing pattern by the company of issuing public statements that are erroneous at best and disingenuous at worst.
"Our members rejected the company's outrageous proposal by 92 percent in September. Rejection came from every corner of the country. They were being asked to vote on a proposal with massive concessions, knowing that their plant could very well be one of those to be closed.
"Our members are on strike because they have had enough. They are not willing to take draconian wage and benefit cuts on top of the significant concessions they made in 2004 and give up their pension so that the Wall Street vulture capitalists in control of this company can walk away with millions of dollars."
Over the past eight years since the first Hostess bankruptcy, BCTGM members have watched as money from previous concessions that was supposed to go towards capital investment, product development, plant improvement and new equipment, was squandered in executive bonuses, payouts to Wall Street investors and payments to high-priced attorneys and consultants.
BCTGM members are well aware that as the company was preparing to file for bankruptcy earlier this year, the then CEO of Hostess was awarded a 300 percent raise (from approximately $750,000 to $2,550,000) and at least nine other top executives of the company received massive pay raises. One such executive received a pay increase from $500,000 to $900,000 and another received one taking his salary from $375,000 to $656,256.
Over the past 15 months, Hostess workers have seen the company unilaterally end contractually-obligated payments to their pension plan. Despite saving more than $160 million with this action, the company continues to fall deeper and deeper into debt. A mountain of debt and gross mismanagement by a string of failed CEO's with no true experience in the wholesale baking business have left this company unable to compete or survive.
A total of 24 Hostess production facilities are on strike or honoring the strike with picket lines established by striking Hostess workers at other BCTGM-represented facilities. Additionally, BCTGM members at one transport facility also are on strike. Company claims that union members are crossing picket lines and maintaining production at striking plants are vastly untrue.
The BCTGM represents more than 80,000 workers in the baking, food processing, grain milling and tobacco industries in the United States and Canada.
Biased news..

Anyway, most of here said there were other problems and the company was in trouble for some time.. The union strike just did nothing to help..
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Yep. It is the Unions fault.

Brian Driscoll, CEO, around $750,000 to $2,550,000.
Gary Wandschneider, EVP, $500,000 to $900,000.
John Stewart, EVP, $400,000 to $700,000.
David Loeser, EVP, $375,000 to $656,256.
Kent Magill, EVP, $375,000 to $656,256.
Richard Seban, EVP, $375,000 to $656,256.
John Akeson, SVP, $300,000 to $480,000.
Steven Birgfeld, SVP, $240,000 to $360,000.
Martha Ross, SVP, $240,000 to $360,000.
Rob Kissick, SVP, $182,000 to $273,008.

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The Unions Didn’t Take Your Twinkies: Goldman Sachs Asset Strippers Did « American Everyman

It was Romney Vulture Capitalist Style Management that Killed Hostess, Not Unions
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Isn't it amazing how much you miss something when it's gone? I haven't had a Twinkie in probably 40 years, but I have this sudden craving.......

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Anything that suggests it was not the unions fault is considered biased info. Have another twinkie.
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You're in luck, Christmas is right around the corner. For the next month people in red suits will be ho-ho-hoing all over the place.
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