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Old 08-13-2011, 12:58 PM   #1
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Old Glory, Tattered and Frayed

Here is Why Old Glory is so Tattered, Torn and Frayed?
234 Years have passed since Old Glory led the way.
For 7 long years she withstood all of the bullets and blood that passed her way.
Rest for Old Glory only came after 22,674 patriots gave all they had to give.


Worn and frayed she mended for the next 30 years until her colors were threatened once again. Again she stood strong and was seen waving battered and torn while defending a small fort in Baltimore. All toll 11,700 patriots gave everything to preserve her young independence.

In 1846 Old Glory stood her ground once again when her neighbor to the south foolishly tried to invade her border. 13,271 American soldiers fell by her side.

Over the next 13 years new stars were added to her background of Blue. With each star of bright white Old Glory’s’ symbol for Freedom for all was about to be tested once again, this time from within. While on her watch over another fort Old Glory was fired upon and almost torn in half. It took 4 Long years and 618,000 lives before Old Glory could rest and mend again. Her duty this time included seeing her fallen President home.

Old Glory rested and mended for 33 years until she was called upon to defend her freedom from Spanish invaders. The loss of 5,385 men proved once again that her colors do not run.

Old Glory was carried to the Filipino Insurrection in 1899 to help stabilize that tiny nation; the cost this time was 4,196 of her brave men.



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I want you guys to listen to the late MR. Johnny Cash and his rendition of ''Ragged old Flag''. You will never know the pride I feel when I stand on the bridge over I-40 and wave ''Old Glory'' on Veterans Day and Flag Day.


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If you dont feel the pride when you hear this and see the pictures,,,,,,,,, you are already dead, PLEASE CLOSE THE COFFIN ON YOURSELF and I will be glad to kick dirt on you now..... cj ....

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Old 08-14-2011, 10:17 AM   #5
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We have let the political correctness go way beyond reason in this country. We need to go back to our American values and respect for the flag and country... and if you don't like them, please load up and go back home.

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I'm with you guys...and NO I ain't pushing "1" for English. Sorry, I feel better now...
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I have to look every morning for Old Glory flying over a W-ll grave up on the hill in cemetery behind me just to make sure its still waving in the morning breeze.
There are many Vets in this small cemetery.
I'm compelled to do this, must be the Vet in me.
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We fly "Old Glory" every day. in front of our house...
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Americans love our flag. We display it at concerts and stadiums to celebrate, and at times of national tragedy to show our resolve. We have our schoolchildren pledge allegiance to it; we have consecrated it in our national anthem; we have a holiday to honor it. Yet the iconography and history of the American flag, especially its early history, are infused with myth and misrepresentation. Here are five of the most prevalent myths.

1. Betsy Ross made the first American flag.

The Betsy Ross story is the most tenacious piece of fiction involving the flag. There simply is no credible historical evidence — letters, diaries, newspaper accounts, bills of sale — that Ross (then known as Elizabeth Claypoole) either made or had a hand in designing the American flag before it made its debut in 1777.

The story cropped up in 1870, almost 100 years after the first flag was supposedly sewn, when William Canby, Ross’s grandson, told the Historical Society of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia that his grandmother made the flag at George Washington’s behest. Canby’s sole evidence: affidavits from family members. The iconic 1893 painting of Ross sitting in her Philadelphia parlor with the sun beaming down on the flag in her lap is a scene invented by Charles H. Weisgerber, the artist and entrepreneur who profited from the Betsy Ross legend.

While Ross did make flags in Philadelphia in the late 1770s, it is all but certain that the story about her creating the American flag is a myth.

As President Woodrow Wilson, who presided over the first official national Flag Day on June 14, 1916, is said to have replied when asked his thoughts on the story: “Would that it were true.”



2. The red, white and blue colors symbolize American sacrifice.

No federal law, resolution or executive order exists providing an official reason for the flag’s colors — or their meaning. The closest thing to an explanation are the words of Charles Thomson, the secretary of the Continental Congress, who was instrumental in the design of the Great Seal of the United States. Thomson’s report to Congress on June 20, 1782, the day the seal was approved, contained a description of the colors, the same as those in the flag: “White signifies purity and innocence. Red hardiness and valour and Blue .?.?. signifies vigilance, perseverance and justice.”

Various official documents and proclamations — including one by President Ronald Reagan marking 1986 as the “Year of the Flag” — have echoed that reasoning.

But the colors do not have, nor have they ever had, any official imprimatur. Historians believe that the use of red, white and blue in the Stars and Stripes has to do with the simple fact that they were the colors of the first flag of the American colonies, the Continental Colors. And there is little doubt where the red, white and blue of the Continental Colors came from: the Union Jack of England.



3. The Pledge of Allegiance has long been recited in Congress and other governmental bodies.

The pledge was written by magazine editor Francis Bellamy in 1892 for a nationwide public school celebration of the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus’s landing. In 1898, during the Spanish American War, New York became the first state to mandate that public school students recite the Pledge of Allegiance at the beginning of each school day. Many states followed suit, and the pledge remained a staple of the daily routine in many schools until 1988, when it became an issue in the presidential campaign. Vice President George H.W. Bush criticized his opponent, Democrat Michael Dukakis, for vetoing a bill as governor of Massachusetts that would have required the pledge to be recited in public schools. Dukakis said he did so after being advised that the law was unconstitutional.

At the height of the campaign, on Sept. 13, 1988, the pledge was recited on the floor of the House of Representatives for the first time. Republican members of the House, who were in the minority, offered a resolution to that effect, and it was accepted by Speaker Jim Wright, a Democrat. Wright ruled that from then on, the pledge would be recited at the start of business each day that the House was in session. The Senate did not begin daily recital of the pledge until June 24, 1999. Since then, the pledge has become part of the opening rituals of nearly all state and local governmental bodies.

4. It is illegal to burn the American flag.

It was illegal until 1989, when the Supreme Court ruled 5 to 4 in Texas v. Johnson that burning the flag is a form of symbolic speech protected by the First Amendment. The case involved Gregory Lee Johnson, a member of the Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade, who had burned the flag during a protest at the 1984 Republican National Convention. He was convicted of violating Texas’s flag-desecration law, fined $2,000 and sentenced to a year in jail. The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals overturned the conviction, ruling that Johnson was exercising his First Amendment right to freedom of speech.

The Supreme Court’s decision invalidated a 1968 national flag-desecration law, as well as similar laws in 48 states (all except Wyoming and Alaska). In response, Congress passed the Flag Protection Act, but that law was also challenged and wound up in the Supreme Court. The court in 1990 essentially affirmed its earlier ruling, stating that any law banning flag burning violated free speech.

Those decisions led to a national movement to amend the Constitution to make flag desecration illegal. The leading voice in that effort has been the Citizens Flag Alliance, which was founded in 1994 by the American Legion. Proposed amendments have come up regularly in the House and Senate since then but have yet to receive sufficient support.



5. It’s okay to wear a Stars and Stripes T-shirt.

The U.S. Flag Code frowns on the use of the flag “for advertising purposes.” It goes on to warn against the sale or display of any “article of merchandise .?.?. upon which shall have been printed, painted, attached, or otherwise placed a representation of” the flag to “advertise, call attention to, decorate, mark, or distinguish the article or substance on which so placed.”

In other words, when you wear a flag T-shirt or hat while reclining on an American flag beach towel near your American flag camping chair, you are violating the Flag Code. The code, which was drawn up at the first National Flag Conference in Washington in 1923, is part of the law of the land. But it is not enforced, nor is it enforceable. It is merely a set of guidelines, letting Americans know what to do — and what not to do — with our red, white and blue national emblem.

There is no Flag Police. You will not be arrested for wearing a flag-embossed T-shirt on Flag Day — or any other day of the year.

God bless the troops who, by their sacrifices, have preserved this piece of sacred cloth, and always will.
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With all respect my G.I. Brother you are correct in your posting concerning the flag. Lots of things and ''facts''? About the flag are either not correct or simple myths handed down since the revolutionary war. The thing I think about when it comes to the flag is that the flag is pieces of material sewn into a pattern that we respect and recognize as our national emblem but ''Our Flag'' is more than that. More than pieces of cloth.. ''Our Flag'' is representative of our ideals and our pride in country. It is a physical representation of our love for this great land. Holding the flag no more makes a person a patriot than standing in a garage makes that person a car. ''Our Flag'' is much more than cloth sewn in a pattern. ''Our Flag'' is the idea of liberty. of bravery, of resolution for the cause of freedom which so many have given their lives for and so many have defended with their life. '' Our Flag'' is a statement of independence to all enemies that might try to take away our freedoms and ''Our Flag'' is an outward representation of a feeling inside me and many others that can not be burned up or blown away with bullets or chopped up with a sword. ''Our Flag'' is freedoms fire in the souls of men that will die for that freedom. When I wave Old Glory on special days I feel a deep feeling of pride as an American and deep feeling respect for those ten times ten thousands of brave men and women that have given their lives in the defense of ''Our Flag''. When I was in boot camp at Great Lakes we would march to supper chow across the grinder and sometimes they would play Stars and Stripes Forever on the speakers. Hearing that reference to our Colors made me proud to be in the Navy and it would send a chill down my spine every time.
As to burning the flag I say this... It is the right of anyone to burn the flag and I will be the first to help them burn it as long as it is dipped in gasoline and wrapped around the persons body that wants to do the burning. I will be glad to ''light the match''....
The flag is three colors of cloth sewn into a pattern but ''Our Flag'' represents our ideals and our ideas of freedom. It represents our hopes as a people and it should command the respect of all who live in its shadow and if anyone does not feel that respect, that love, that honor it represents, LET THAT PERSON LEAVE THIS COUNTRY NOW AND GO BACK TO WHERE EVER THEY CAME.....
Long may our idea of freedom wave over this great land.
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ALL WHO HAVE DEFENDED HER....


Nuff said for now I guess......... cj.......
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