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Old 01-09-2006, 09:56 AM   #15
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One of us here should check the State Department website. I saw post at the friendly neighbors (rv.net) which said the passport will not be mandatory until January, 2008. I haven't had time to check that.

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Old 01-10-2006, 08:57 AM   #16
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For those which it may affect, by January 1, 2008 you will be REQUIRED to have a passport to cross enter any of the following Mexico, Canada, Bermuda, Caribbean and Panama.

Hope this helps some.
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Old 01-11-2006, 10:42 AM   #17
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Funny old world, we in the european union are adopting an open borders policy, while in the states its the opposite.

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Old 01-11-2006, 11:11 AM   #18
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by olley:
Funny old world, we in the european union are adopting an open borders policy, while in the states its the opposite.

Olley </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
...but we have a better reason than the European Union not to have open borders.

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Old 01-11-2006, 11:28 AM   #19
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Hey Rich,

Talk to just about any European. They will dispute that. In the Netherlands last year a playright and theatre director working for greater understanding of new residents/citizens from other cultures was murder in a terroist fashion. That's just one of these.

& just what did they have all of these years in the Czech and Slovak Republics. Peace and quiet. Not terrorism.

HuH!!!! Just HUH!!!

Europeans have had much more terorism than North Americans all of the 20th century. To not know that is to have been ignoring the news from elsewhere!!! What was the difference between the Irish and the U.K. government. Last summer after the bombings just how did Londoners knuckle down and go about their business to the high praise of the Mayor of London? In effect he said 'we run our country, our business as normally as we can.' To let terrorists disrupt is to let them succeed.'

Sorry, Rich think, please.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Little Kopit:

&lt;snip&gt; ".....Sorry, Rich think, please. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Little Kopit, You are entirely correct. Thanks for giving the reminders of the happenings in Europe ...I was not thinking when making the response to the one of Olley. I now think he (Olley) should also re-think! ...I am under the impression he likes and wants open borders.

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Old 01-11-2006, 04:21 PM   #21
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Rich, He/she could have been thinking back to this post from Jan 8, 6:32 a.m. (NST) by me.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The reports I hear re. Europe are that quite a few countries no longer stop you at the border, but you had better have all of your paperwork on you, just in case you have need of it. If you get asked and don't have it, look out!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

& that is what I have read from more than one source. One of those sources is a friend of mine, who is a member of this forum.

European thinking on how to use their resources is different than North American thinking.

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Old 01-12-2006, 07:55 AM   #22
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The idea in the EU is to have open borders between the member nations but not on the outside. It's a bit like the border line between each State in the US. Great Britain opted out of this "open" border as they were having more trouble with terrorism.
But saying that, most EU country's have had some form of terrorism in the last 40 years.

Germany....Rote Armee Fraction
Italy..........
Spain......... Bask separation group
UK............IRA
Netherlands...Moluccan Independence group

Also, most of these country's have had to deal with PLO and others, one way or another in the past.

We don't need to take our passports but will require our identity cards, but we need those even on us in our own country.
It was such a pain to travel through Europe in the past with all those borders, now you just drive into another country and all you see is a sign saying you just did so.

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Old 01-17-2006, 04:19 AM   #23
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Hi the situation in Europe is different to the states, we have been fighting and killing each other for the past 2000 years and the open borders is part of the integration policy idea of the European Union.

The theory is if we can all join up into a European Super state this will stop, and it will also give us more muscle on the world stage.

Sounds good, unfortunately we all speak different languages, and have different cultures, and the politicians are only thinking of what will get them re-elected, self-interest, bribery and corruption rule the roost. (Normal for politicians the world over.)

I agree with the open borders, once you close your borders and adopt a siege mentality the terrorists, have gained a victory, they are effecting your life. More people die from guns or road accidents every year than are ever killed by terrorists, but you go on selling them and we all go on driving.

Look at the amount of money we have spent, the restrictions on personal freedoms and the publicity that they have achieved, they must be well pleased. We should ignore them and carry on regardless.

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Ah, Olley, you are in the UK, no wonder what you say reminds me of what the mayor of London said after the bombings last July.

Soldier on, you people have been doing that for a long time. I can think of times here when residents of Canada thought the very idea of a person carrying an ID on their person smacked of Nazi Germany. This was at the time of the FLQ crisis in October, 1970. It's not hard to find evidence of siege mentatlity on the web for that one.

But the time when we could go without ID is definitely past.

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Hi little Kopit, I don't have a problem with ID cards or indeed any method of personal ID, but question their value.

Its estimated that the ID cards that our government is considering will cost in the region of 10 billion pounds, if our Governments past record on budgets and computerisation is anything to go by it will be 10 years late, cost twice as much and be full of bugs.

Iris recognition, facial scanning and finger print technologies are still not foolproof. And if sky digi-cards are anything to go by, (they where supposed to be crack proof) forgery's will be on sale before long.

We have to fight to keep our countries free, but not by turning ourselves into virtual dictatorships, freedom of speech, freedom of worship, and to my mind most important of all, no imprisonment without trial, which both you and us have given up.

Our government's latest anti-terrorist legalisation is already being abused, when a 80-year-old was ejected from their conference and held under this act. The more power governments have the more they want and the more they will abuse it.

The terrorists present less of a threat to our lives and our democracy's than our governments do.

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Old 01-18-2006, 08:57 AM   #26
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The Passport issue is dead , both Govs have now agreed on the use of cards instead. Here is the latest news concerning passports.

U.S. proposal to require passports from everyone crossing the Canada-U.S. border has been scrapped in favour of a new security card.

The so-called PASS (People Access Security Service) card is the size of a credit card, costs half of what a passport would, and will contain a special ID that could be read metres away at border crossings, according to administration officials.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">PhilnJune </div></BLOCKQUOTE>, for the United States, yes, that is so, but starting Janurary 1, 2008 Canadians will still need a passport to enter the United States.

We're a part of this forum too, as are Europeans, Auatralians...... lest ye forget. HMM!!, just noticed where you are from. My source is CBC radio, which does have a high degree of credibility.

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I guess the first mistake is listening to the CBC..
It'll be required by Jan. 1, 2008, from all Americans, Canadians and Mexicans arriving in the United States over land.

"We're talking about, essentially, the kind of driver's licence or other simple card identification that almost all of us carry in our wallets day in and day out," said Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff.
Passports will still be required of Canadians at U.S. airports and seaports by the end of 2006.
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