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Old 04-16-2005, 11:55 AM   #29
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Borderbuster:
However I am in favor of an universal Identity card with embedded transponder that would trip database sensors containing biographical information needed by border authorities as well as any others with a need to know. The catch is to figure out who should issue it.
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universal Identity card? and isn't it presently called a PASSPORT? The key word you said is UNIVERSAL. It sounds like you are saying our passports aren't really that good and if that is the case, then improvements should be made there rather than to have some other card. You know yourself that most countries will not accept an ID card for their citizens that is made/issued in another country ...if so, it would be the first ever, right?


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Old 04-16-2005, 01:33 PM   #30
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No, I mean Passports are a pain in the butt to carry for ID purposes only. If the passport had the transponder and was the size of a credit card, then they would be Okay.

I see no advantage in carrying a portfolio of documents to identify myself with the electronics and communication systems we have now. Less is better the way I look at it.

My opinion changes if either the electronics and communication are not available, but this is not the case when you enter the USA and Canada. Homeland Security has one of the best if not the best electronic communication systems in the world.(You paid for it

I also realize countries other than the USA do not have the technology in place for the transponder ID card and until that happens Passports will still be used. I just don't want to carry a suitcase of documents just to get back into my own country.

By the way, most new passports issued have data strips that can be read by a document reader however that requires the passport be manually swiped and if that is done to every person that crosses the border you can bet the lineups will be huge at the major US border crossings.

Wouldn't it be nice if by the time you reached the border, the borderguards would already know if you were admissable? This would be possible with transponder ID.

I would like to remind everybody that the 9-11 terrorists were admitted legally to the USA with genuine documents including passports and state department issued visas.

ps. I have a passport and carry it!

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Old 04-16-2005, 01:54 PM   #31
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If you really want to get folks cranked up, consider a microchip like you have put into your dog or cat. With a simple hand scanner, they could pull up your life history.

Just food for thought.

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Old 04-16-2005, 02:24 PM   #32
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Nice website, you in any of the pictures?
Yeah, nothing stirs people up more than gun control or proof of citizenship. After 34 years of looking at ID and matching it to the person I have become somewhat opinionated about it.
Never did get tired of talking to the people though. When you meet a new person every 30 seconds or so it can get interesting.
I always liked the RV'rs best, they usually were the happiest travelers and had the best stories.
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Old 04-21-2005, 06:46 PM   #33
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Lets see, theres over 3000 miles of unguarded border between the USA and Canada that stretches from Maine to Washington state, and thats not including all the Great Lakes, where if a terrorist wanted to, he could row a boat across to get into either country undetected, now lets move South, where every waking moment hundreds of people everyday are walking across unguarded borders that stretches from Texas to California, now would someone please tell me how a $98.00 passport is going to stop undesirables from entering the U.S. from Canada or Mexico.
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Couldn't've said it better. And what about ALL those people who are trying to get in THE RIGHT WAY? Talk about cutting in line!

Amen, brother, Amen!
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Well said cpo3
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Old 04-23-2005, 06:14 AM   #36
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Cpo3 is right, those who are determined to get across are getting across and will continue to do so, regardless of the documentation required to do it legaly. The only thing a passport might be usefull for is to identify people who are already in the country.
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If I trust the local newspapers, recently there was an article on how there were 1600 drive-throughs at the Candian border going into the States in 2004. This was due to the fact that the customs people do not have enough resources to adequately protect the entire length of the border.

As for passports...never leave home without it. I have a Golden Age Pass and Québec licence plates and upon entering some Nat'l Parks, there is quite a question on how this could be. Of course, once my U.S. passport is shown then they let me pass.

Also very handy for changing travelers checks, banking..yeah banking. I stopped at a bank and the teller asked me for an ID, so I showed her my passport and then she asked me if I had anything else, like a driver's licence. I showed my licence, but at that time there was no photo on it. LOL.

Even though there always have been drive-throughs, would I try it? No way!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Steve Val:

"I traveled to Alaska last summer through Canada-- as a retired law enforcement -- I was really shocked at how slack the border check was.
The border guards did not come in the motorhome -- they just asked questions. Checked our personal ids.-- did not even check the dogs health certificates. "



Every time we cross into the USA. The Customs Officers are more concerned if we are carrying BEEF or CHICKEN than who we are and the purpose of our visit. They didn't even ask if our dog had it's rabbi shots.

On both sides of the border the officers are busy typing in your licence number as you squeese your way towards their booth. They know a lot more than you may think just by your plate number. The only time a US Custom agent entered our motorhome was to see the layout as he was shopping for a unit.
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Steve is right and their computer systems are linked. When the border guy types in your licence number when you are returning, he knows when and where you left the country.
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They type in your license number while re-entering the U.S. from Baja as well, but don't enter it while leaving. But I presume it does give them a lot of info.
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Don't know about Mexico but the Canadian and US computer systems are linked.
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Actually, the US and Canadian systems are linked via the human system, not electronically. Most of the shared info comes from a phone call, some from fax, some email and all require some permissions and a lot of responsibility.
Quite a lot of the database information is subject to the Freedom of Information Act, Privacy Act, and half a dozen other Laws and Regulations.

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