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09-20-2008, 08:33 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RVThere:
Just to confirm my previous post about bringing a gun into NJ.
From this past Thursday's Hunterdon County Democrat 'Public Safety Report' for Clinton Township. (and trust me, this is the rural part of the state where Republicans rule and people hunt):
Police say they found a handgun loaded with hollow-point bullets during a vehicle stop on Sunday at about 2am on Route 173 near Center Street.
Patrolman Drew MacQueen said he saw a holstered handgun between the feet of Julio Fred, 32, of Readington, PA. The S&W .45-cal semi-automatic was loaded with hollow-point bullets, police said, and an additional magazine nearby also contained hollow-point bullets.
Although Mr. Fred PRODUCED A VALID PA FIREARMS LICENSE, he was NOT LICENCED IN NJ. He was charged with unlawful possenssion of a handgun, possession of hollow-point bullets, failure to stay in a lane, and having an unclear license plate. He was released after the handgun and ammunition were confiscated. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
And he will lose his Pa permit to carry after being charged with a weapons violation.
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09-20-2008, 09:24 AM
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And on top of everything else the guy is an idiot and should not have a gun in the first place.
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09-20-2008, 10:21 AM
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Well, my sweet little german pinscher took a hunk out of the doberman at her new home and now I have to take her back. Not sure if I'm going to attempt finding her another home. So that will probably take care of my self defense problem. I've been looking at pistol grip shotguns. I have the mega bear spray that I got in Alaska and I have a distress horn that you use on boats- I was told to carry that with me in Alaska too - that the noise would probably scare any bear away. I've got another 2 to 3 weeks here - I may go test fire some of them and may buy one just as a backup. It never hurts to have a gun - just in case - whether or not I ever use it.
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09-20-2008, 11:11 AM
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There's a sign for you. Dog bites dog, Momma keeps dog. It's fate.
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09-20-2008, 11:20 AM
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Here we go!!!!
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09-20-2008, 04:50 PM
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I think 18 officers were shot in all by high powered rifles, none died, so much for caliber. The second gunman was not killed immediately by the swat officers with the AK 47's but bled to death.
As to the level of officer training and tactics that is debatable, none could make a headshot and 18 got shot.
When swat did arrive they were slow to deploy. It took 1 hour.
A 22LR to the head of either bad guy would have ended it or any other round for that matter.
Caliber doesn't matter much if you can't hit the side of a barn - wherein a shot gun might come into play.
We are talking about a defensive situation in a Motor Home not killing everyone in an RV Park with an AK 47.
I don't mean to demean the police but in this case the LA PD in my opinion failed miserably and were very lucky to come out of the situation as well as they did.
On the other hand two Kern County Sheriffs deputies found a suspect who had just kidnapped two girls from Quartzhill. He pointed his gun at them and he ceased to exist. They were well trained and could also shoot, accurately.
A 32 in a MH would do just fine. So would a 22LR, assuming you can shoot accurately.
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09-20-2008, 06:25 PM
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As a matter of fact I have been shot at. Which does answer your second question.
I am also a burn/explosion survivor - near death experience - which I wish on no one.
I may have been off on the numbers of officers shot but not much else.
And again your just stating your opinions also.
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09-21-2008, 03:19 AM
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Folks, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and those opinions can be discussed, but discussing each other is not permitted by iRV2's rules.
Let's get back on topic and stop getting personal.
Thank you.
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09-21-2008, 08:04 AM
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Thank you Dirk!
I did a little searching on the the lethality of the 22LR and was shocked at what I found.
If you go to this link there is a test of the 22LR's lethality at 250 and 300 yards under very windy conditions by a professional.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=sho...umber=504301&fpart=1
I think I might put my 32 away and get out my 22 Ruger semi automatic. Accuracy again is also stressed.
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09-21-2008, 08:20 AM
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I'm a certified sharpshooter and keep my skills up by going to a shooting range several times a year!! I'm a Marine, remember? So I can definitely hit the side of a barn . . . I was hitting the side of a barn when I was 6 years old with my grandpa's .22 rifle! LOL!!
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09-21-2008, 08:45 AM
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With your skills a 22LR Ruger would be perfect and you would not have to be as worried about collateral damage or injuries.
My whole argument is skill is as important as caliber.
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09-21-2008, 12:13 PM
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09-21-2008, 03:04 PM
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This topic keeps coming up in one form or another so often it should be its own forum ENOUGH ALREADY
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09-21-2008, 07:09 PM
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Sorry JJ - was just wanting some info about shotguns . . . didn't mean to get everyone fired up . . . .
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