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Old 06-23-2013, 10:54 AM   #1415
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Attention RVMs -- Dateline 6/23/13

Moonrover has won the first official RV Mutant Working Blind Plumber Prize of the Day! With limited and somewhat faulty data he has correctly reverse engineered his way into identifying my black water tank. My schematics prove his mutant logic sound and accurate! Bells and Whistles!

The first PVC pipe is where the rear toilet enters the black tank. The second is the black tank vent. On the far side and unseen in picture - the front toilet sits directly above the black tank. The other wizardry of the hose line / fitting below the rear toilet entry isn't depicted in the Drain Plumbing schematic - but is in the Hot and Cold Plumbing schematic (?!) and is indeed depicted in the Santi Flush detail. So again -- Great Answer! If there were to be a pyramid log jam - it would likely be at the elbow to the tank and right there. My takeaway - I don't want to open that line and flush that out, and to use plenty of water in the rear toilet. It is a Tecma and the full flush is pretty powerful. My crude estimate is a 4' run to the tank. It is also good to know the front toilet sits above the "deep end" of the tank. Hopefully there are no bends or obstructions beneath it. Guess I will pull out a flashlight and look next time.

As we have said many times - RVMs are curious. I saw a cutout and foam insert and wondered why. I had briefly glanced at my plumbing schematics but had not studied them. I'm still not sure a hose would be left there long enough to warrant the cutout but who knows?

Are you questioning something - curious and asking why - RVMs are here to help one another mutate. (Along with all the other non-mutating forum folks for sure.)

Thanks Moonrover and Congratulations on your big win!!
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Old 06-23-2013, 10:57 AM   #1416
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:03 AM   #1417
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This is one question I'm curious about:

Why are so many MHs brown while almost all TTs and 5th-wheels are white?

Is it just convention, or is there a practical reason?
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:13 AM   #1418
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This is one question I'm curious about:

Why are so many MHs brown while almost all TTs and 5th-wheels are white?

Is it just convention, or is there a practical reason?
Sounds like today's Mutant Ponderation subject to me.

In practical terms, nowadays I think all RV's start off white, since that is usually the color of the fiberglass gel coat. What paint job is then applied depends on the quality and cost of the finished product. My Thor ACE came with a full paint job with none of the white base layer showing. The non full body paint version just had colored decals applied on top of the gel coat. If I recall correctly the paint job added about $2,500 to the MSRP. But why most paint schemes are shades of brown is beyond me. Off to ponder.
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:14 AM   #1419
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Availability of colored product. Cost. You'll notice that a coach is SLIGHTLY higher in price. Gives you more options to pay for.

Just my opinion.
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I'm going to have to sit back and ponder why I ponder so much.

Kinda like our Government. They spent $175,000 on a study to find out why the Government has so many studies!
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:19 AM   #1421
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This is one question I'm curious about:

Why are so many MHs brown while almost all TTs and 5th-wheels are white?

Is it just convention, or is there a practical reason?
Hmmm... This is a good question. With newer Motorhomes I'm going to go with full body paint being expensive to apply - so they go over the top with colors and swirls etc. Older Motorhomes were basically white with lots of decals. Trailers got / get the decal applications as well. I'm no expert on trailers so not sure if they get the FBP treatment or not? I just know I will always have FBP from here on out. I do think they could tone it down a bit.

Btw - while it's still morning here - good morning RVM4 and same to all other RVMs.
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Les - I'm gonna say - "Making hay while the sun shines." Annie will say - "I don't see any hay." And I will say - "I didn't say I was any good at it Gonna take some time." :
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Mmm! Sushi-saki-sashimi ... I could sing that song all day! Quit! You're makin' me hongry!

How come you get some an' I ain't got none? My bad ... I'd better motor on home and mix me up some vinegared rice.

We are on our way home from a Bounder chapter rally. Since we're about to mutate over to a Thor Tuscany (40 FX), we have now been declared SOBs (Some Other Brand) and have been, sadly, excommunicated. It's a nice bunch of folks and we will miss them.

Being mutants, however, we will chin up and move on.

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Sue - RVM3 Jdoc - probably knows the SOB rules as well as anyone. We'll see what he has to say bout that there.

The sushi was great last night. It was their 1 year anniversary and everything except the saki was 15% off. I love those fried shrimp heads with the sweet shrimp. Yum.

Congratulations on the new rig. We RVMs are not interested in branding - you have a rig that doesn't have something and you don't miss it - make the journey your destination. Make your declaration and your in.

Still looking for someone to take their place as RVM39. Tell us what ya don't have and join the mutants!
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This is one question I'm curious about:

Why are so many MHs brown while almost all TTs and 5th-wheels are white?

Is it just convention, or is there a practical reason?
Ummmm ... I have a theory on that. Like already stated, white is the base gel coat color. Gadzillions of RVs start out white. Manufacturers put on decals, colored swooping designs to make them look different as well as play into the original swoopy painted high cost Prevost conversion paint look. Now the RV manufacturers can "up" the price due to the paint jobs looking expensive, and of course make them "different" than the entry level white look.

So, now they are all different like everyone else! Swoops all over the place ... every RV looks the same now.

What if some high-end Prevost, Newell, etc rigs started coming out with single color, say ... purple metal flake ... paint? Bet the RV manufacturers would eventually offer an upscale optional single purple look.

Here's another thought before my brain turns to toast ... uhhh ...... dang, too late.
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Okay, so paint is more expensive than decals or plain white, and manufacturers want the RV to look expensive--makes sense. Other than looks, is there an advantage to having paint?

And still, why that chocolate shade of brown that I see on so many?
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Okay, so paint is more expensive than decals or plain white, and manufacturers want the RV to look expensive--makes sense. Other than looks, is there an advantage to having paint?

And still, why that chocolate shade of brown that I see on so many?
That's the trendy color today. Just like dusty rose and mint green was about 14 years ago. How about appliances or plumbing fixtures? Harvest Gold? That Robbins Egg Blue? Aqua Green? Surprised we didn't see any plaid or paisley coloured coaches a few years ago.
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