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Old 04-15-2014, 09:35 PM   #14281
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I drove over to CLSP today from McKinney, TX which is north of DFW area. Here is the route GOOGLE MAP ROUTE and what the drive was like.

Wayne...make sure you read through or just skip this part to the end.

We jumped right onto HWY 380 just east of I-75 and headed east to Greenville. Google says the route is about 65 miles and 1 hour and 19 minutes. Once you get east of I-75 the traffic lights thin out within 5-6 miles and you can get things going nicely. Farmersville has some construction on 380 so just watch out for the barriers.

Not much happening until you get to Greenville where you will come to a point where you have to turn right for a block to get on a oneway street for about 5-6 blocks of town. At the end of the one way you can be in either of the 2 left turn lanes because you will be turning north onto 34 and going north for several blocks. As you exit out of Greenville you need to keep your eye open for a couple of those really squirrely intersections with odd angles and everyone comes to a stop. The second of those odd intersections will take you off of 34 onto 224.

224 will take you just north of Commerce and on to 71 for several miles of twisty road until you turn left onto 4775 which takes you into CLSP. When you turn right off of 224 it is a moderately sharp turn but shouldn't be a problem. You then drive about 2 blocks to turn left onto 71. It seems like you are going into a residential area but that isn't really the case. After the right turn that left turn will sneak up on you quickly so no reason to floor it. LOL

As I said, 71 is twisty road at times. Shortly after you get through Commerce there is a 20 MPH curve and then for the next several miles you will have curves ranging from 30 - 55 MPH warnings. The road is not dangerous as long as you pay attention to the curves and drive smart. You will eventually come up onto a T and then turn left onto 4775 and drive that north directly into the park.

I was a tad concerned about the potential for the surface to ooze oil but on the return trip I wasn't so concerned. Certainly in the middle of the summer I might not want to drive that route in case the road did get oily but it is cool enough to not be a problem.

For Wayne and others if they want an alternate route...

From the Houston area Google tosses out 2 possible routes:

1. I45 - I635 - I30 - 24 - Commerce and then as I described above.
2. I45 and then the scenic route via Fairfield - Athens - 19 (through Sulphur Springs) left onto 71 then north on 4775 into the park.

If you take Google route #1 I suggest you stay on I30 and then exit at 19 north bound. There is a Pilot Travel center at that exit too. It may be a tad longer but I suspect you will use less fuel avoiding the throttle work around all those curves I talked about.

One last thought!

After looking at the southern route I think I will seriously consider going via 380 and then east THROUGH Greenville on 302 then getting on I30 just east of Greenville and staying on that until Sulphur Springs. According to google it only adds 6 minutes and 12 miles. I'm betting the lower fuel burn on straight roads will nearly equalize the longer distance.

More about the park on a different post.
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:39 PM   #14282
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Dave - excellent job jumping over the red tape. When a mutant takes things by the throat, there is no limit to what can be accomplished. Job well done!

Thank you, Steve! But...

There is nothing quite as lucky as a wife that calms you and suggests trying another MVD office just for the heck of it, and the luck of my number being tagged to a guy that knew his job.

I had thoughts of being pulled over for a tail light out. "License, registration and proof of insurance please".

The sigh I gave out the moment my torment was over had to have been audible to folks within 30 yards in that big office, but a thought of the notice they may have paid to it never ocurred to me. I was too thrilled. No longer frantic or scared!

And I feel pretty blessed right now.


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Old 04-15-2014, 09:40 PM   #14283
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Don - I take it the weather was nice. Otherwise your lights would have been flashing as status quo. At least that's way I have seen that stretch on more than one occasion.

I really do like the drive north through Kansas and Nebraska. There was one stretch of two lane with sunflowers on both sides of the road. Window high - left and and right - green - yellow - black and gold.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:17 PM   #14284
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CLSP - Recon Report/SITREP

Another LONG POST WARNING...

Sandee, Gunny, Thor and I spent nearly 2 hours driving around the Bright Star loop scouting out the facilities.

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When we stopped at the office I got confirmation that I could register you folks ahead of time and they really don't expect many others looking for sites next week. So I'm going to provide you some information as recommendations with some specific reasons for them. You will have the time to get there and register. BTW...if you happen to get there after 5 PM when the office closes you can go to your chosen spot and pay them the next morning before 9 am.

Don't forget, in addition to the CG fee, there is a $5 per day, per person entry fee unless you have one of those Texas State Park passes. If I do pay for the second day for you folks being here longer than 1 night, you can pay the entry fee when you get here.

So, for the most part, you early arrivals can plan to pay CG and entry fees when you get here. HOWEVER...If I see a sudden influx of campers then I will make the best choice I can and grab a spot before they do. Otherwise, here are my thoughts/recommendations....

We felt the west side of Bright Star was the best opportunity to group ourselves reasonably close together. The slot numbers we think will give everyone a chance to find a good site and be reasonably close are from 27-34 on the inside of the loop and 13 - 22 on the outside. Of course, you can chose any site you wish.

We actually walked and paced out each of the spots. For the most part they are all fairly level left and right but have varying degrees of up and down ramping from the road before you get to the reasonably level pad. All pads are concrete. For the back in slots I would say that most of them have at least 30' of level surface from the bumper curb at the back of the pad before they either ramp up or down to the road. Some have a tad more. None of the ramps are excessive enough that I would think they would cause any hitches to drag.

There are 4 pull throughs. 30 & 29 are pretty good. I do NOT recommend 14 because there is little room to step out of your coach onto concrete before there is a big drop off to the ground surface below. 15 is not much better but I would scout it out yourself it you want a pull through. Also, 14 & 15 are on the outside of the curve and thus have a slightly sharper curve of their own.

Many of the pads are not level with the ground. You will want to consider hugging the driver side of the pad as you back in to give you a place to extend the stairs and be able to step down to the pad.

Unless we find something isn't working for us, we will be taking Spot 34. Additionally, I will reserve 13 for Wayne and 30 for Steve/RVM2 to accommodate some leveling equipment issues they are having.

You may want to consider driving into the the entry to Bright Star and unhooking and scouting your site before you get into the circle. The outside spots on the west side need to be approached from the north (counter clockwise around the loop) while the inside spots need to be approached from the south (clockwise around the loop). Once you commit to the direction you drive around the loop, there isn't an easy way to get turned around without exiting and doing some backing to get back into the area. Of course, you could unhook back at the office and scout with your toad but it is nearly a 5-6 minute drive at the speed limit from the office back into Bright Star.

Water levels are VERY LOW. Sorry, but you won't see too much lake shore.

Finally, if having a view of your favorite sat TV provider is important, drop me a PM on who your provider is and I will try to provide a scout report on what sites will give you that. Several of the sites are well wooded thus blocking sat TV.

PM me any questions or things you would like me to double check when we get there this Friday. I'll plan to get back with any requested info by Saturday.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:19 PM   #14285
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I seen Barb today, and she was east bound and down, loaded up and trucking, she's gona do what they say can't be done. She's got a long way to go, and a short time to get there. She's east bound, just watch ol Barb and Sena run. I didn't think it was her at first, I couldn't see Smarty hiding back there behind the rig until it was almost going by me. And Barb you didn't even wave! And your windows are tinted so dark, I couldn't tell if you are Sena was driving. About 10:30 am between Wakenney and Hays Kansas on I70.
Oh, if only I had known you were out there I'd of stopped for a mini-mini. We stayed in Wakeeney last night and I was headed to get gas in Hays because it was 16 cents cheaper. I was sweating bullets because my low gas icon came on just after I left Wakeeney and I was hoping that there was enough gas to get me to Hays. We made it to Hays, but not before gas went up 4 cents.

It was me driving. Sena drives way too fast and would have probably run us out of gas before Hays. We'll see ya at the GC. I can almost smell those filets a-cookin' now.
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Oh, if only I had known you were out there I'd of stopped for a mini-mini. We stayed in Wakeeney last night and I was headed to get gas in Hays because it was 16 cents cheaper. I was sweating bullets because my low gas icon came on just after I left Wakeeney and I was hoping that there was enough gas to get me to Hays. We made it to Hays, but not before gas went up 4 cents.

It was me driving. Sena drives way too fast and would have probably run us out of gas before Hays. We'll see ya at the GC. I can almost smell those filets a-cookin' now.
Were your ears burning Missy? I just sent up the flair on the email hotline - as I had not heard from you tonight.
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Don, if I'd seen headlights flashing I would have thought you were signaling that there was a speed trap ahead. Since I don't even drive the speed limit, I wouldn't have looked twice.
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Well Bonita is apparently tested and water tight on both tank / blades so we're off to get her. Knock on wood my friendly neighborhood Camping World has come through for me. Yes they didn't get it right the first time - but no charge for Mt trouble this time. Making mistakes his human. Standing behind your work is a good thing! Off we go.

So glad everything is fixed and you guys will be heading out for fun!!!!
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Oh, if only I had known you were out there I'd of stopped for a mini-mini. We stayed in Wakeeney last night and I was headed to get gas in Hays because it was 16 cents cheaper. I was sweating bullets because my low gas icon came on just after I left Wakeeney and I was hoping that there was enough gas to get me to Hays. We made it to Hays, but not before gas went up 4 cents.

It was me driving. Sena drives way too fast and would have probably run us out of gas before Hays. We'll see ya at the GC. I can almost smell those filets a-cookin' now.
I was going to fuel up "Gracie" this afternoon but got delayed. I had to go and get some stuff early this evening and found gasoline had gone from $1.32 a liter ($5.00 per gallon) to $1.47 a liter ($5.56 a gallon) in three hours. Strange how the prices fluctuate up at incredible reckless abandon just prior to long weekends and then slowly drop a penny or two at a time until the next long weekend.
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So glad everything is fixed and you guys will be heading out for fun!!!!
Hey there! Time for me to turn in but it occurs to me - you should play the slot machines. You start off with two 77s. RVM77 is a lucky mutant number methinks!
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Hey there! Time for me to turn in but it occurs to me - you should play the slot machines. You start off with two 77s. RVM77 is a lucky mutant number methinks!

Oh good idea and maybe power ball too! On it.....mutant to the store for power ball ticket.
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Hey Tim - I assume all is well and your sparse posting is because you are sweeping and washing the road from the Texas Border to the GC and laying out the red carpet for all RVMs to arrive and disembark on. Just making sure you're ok buddy?

We headed your way soon and bringing the business end of the RVMutant party ward with us. We'll wave the wand and the party and laughter will begin!

C all y'all mutants real soon!
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Do they embellish Wayne? Ya think spooks tell Google their optical specifications?
Ah grasshopper! I was a Spook for 20+ years. What I told you has been unclassified. Much has changed since I retired over 30 years ago.
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Hey, STMs! Y'all sleeping in this morning?
Such a quiet Rainbow, my goodness!

So...how about a ponder?

No? Well here it is anyways:

It has been a year since our RVM fracus got started. A year! Some events seem long ago, yet overall it seems to have gone quickly.

And now some of us folks are gathering up their stuff and fixing what they must to come together for a Grand Curiosity. But what is the real reason we do this?

It is a Curiosity and will definitely be Grand, but the common bond of two short phrases brought together peeps from many walks of life that share those two steadfast ideas. And friendships grew, thrived, and flourished. Yet, we are all different, quite varied in our lifestyles and habits....except for two short phrases!

Hardships and sadness are mutually consoled. Moments of happiness and joy are gleefully celibrated. Jokes and pokes and sharing of ideas and even a few short quibbles made the year worthwhile. And oh such memories we have already created, all through wholesome camaraderie.

And this next week the culmination of much collaboration and planning comes. And we will laugh and feast and build on what we started.

I have no good way to finish this ponder but to say thanks....



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