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Old 05-11-2016, 08:54 PM   #54447
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I get that these are sometimes complex things with computers running things and such. And I've seen some hideous parameterization done in all kinds of systems, but being naive about what engine manufacturers might do, it seems almost like it's a non-repeatable process. You'd think they'd have some file pre-defining all the parameters for a particular engine/transmission combination, load it and be done. But that's me, the programmer, thinking too logically. And to then say, oh, they might have it in two more hours, it's like, WOW.
The tech says Flagstaff wiped everything out. So while it was easy to go in and set the Rear End Ratio and the Tire RPMS per minute, Enable the retarder that was disabled, enable the Cruise Comtrol, apparently there are lots of other things that are just gone. I really can't explain it, but I see lots of items on the print out that aren't "exploded" that I suppose have parameter options that were there and not now and unknown. Or maybe it's just smoke up my tailpipe.
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Steve RVM2 asked me to keep posting so this is all that I have for now.

Had my septic tank pumped this AM by a nice guy named Phil...his 3rd trip to clean out our turd tank in 22 years. We talked about motorhomes and tires but I tried to leave him to his task. He has a 40' 2000 Alpine.

We also talked about grease, flushable wipes, people we know in common and some other crap. We're good for another 7-10 years.


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And that's all the news that's fit to flush from Sam I am, uh, I mean RVM123. Sam, I think you have a future in public broadcasting. Keep up the good work.
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The tech says Flagstaff wiped everything out. So while it was easy to go in and set the Rear End Ratio and the Tire RPMS per minute, Enable the retarder that was disabled, enable the Cruise Comtrol, apparently there are lots of other things that are just gone. I really can't explain it, but I see lots of items on the print out that aren't "exploded" that I suppose have parameter options that were there and not now and unknown. Or maybe it's just smoke up my tailpipe.
I guess that's the point I was trying to make - it's not an easily repeatable process and that's the really sucky part. There are a lot of people to blame on that one.
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And that's all the news that's fit to flush from Sam I am, uh, I mean RVM123. Sam, I think you have a future in public broadcasting. Keep up the good work.

LOL, he also hauled away some political promises......
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The tech says Flagstaff wiped everything out. So while it was easy to go in and set the Rear End Ratio and the Tire RPMS per minute, Enable the retarder that was disabled, enable the Cruise Comtrol, apparently there are lots of other things that are just gone. I really can't explain it, but I see lots of items on the print out that aren't "exploded" that I suppose have parameter options that were there and not now and unknown. Or maybe it's just smoke up my tailpipe.
Isn't there a way that you, the owner, or they, the shop, can make a backup copy of the parameters before work is started on a computer driven engine like Bonita's? I'm assuming there's a file somewhere in her brain that can be accessed. Or am I assuming too much?

What isn't run by computers these days? I know Smarty is! I disconnect the battery for towing and she must go thru a relearning process when I reconnect the battery before she will start. I can hear all sorts of clicking coming from the engine area while she is rebooting.

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LOL, he also hauled away some political promises......
Sounds about like all the political promises.
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I guess that's the point I was trying to make - it's not an easily repeatable process and that's the really sucky part. There are a lot of people to blame on that one.
If not mistaken - and I may well be, it's possible that the same engine can be setup as a 275, 300, 325, etc HP, the same tranny can be set to different shift speeds, etc etc. And all of these are interdependent and designed to "talk" to each other... So you would think that it would be first priority to have all that in a file and have it nailed down somewhere... I suppose the thought process is... nobody would wipe it out completley.
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If not mistaken - and I may well be, it's possible that the same engine can be setup as a 275, 300, 325, etc HP, the same tranny can be set to different shift speeds, etc etc. And all of these are interdependent and designed to "talk" to each other... So you would think that it would be first priority to have all that in a file and have it nailed down somewhere... I suppose the thought process is... nobody would wipe it out completley.
Ok Steve I've held back so all these techies could talk way over most of our heads and contemplated various theories on how and why and how come. I've finally decided to help. What you need to do is unplug your computer, wait 10 seconds, plug it back in!

Simple!

If that dosnt work seek help.
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Ok Steve I've held back so all these techies could talk way over most of our heads and contemplated various theories on how and why and how come. I've finally decided to help. What you need to do is unplug your computer, wait 10 seconds, plug it back in!

Simple!

If that dosnt work seek help.
Hey... I've heard that before... and variations on a theme... lol.
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Every once in a while I get the urge to look at a diesel pusher and then reality hits and I just nod and say hmmm, maybe I won't. I feel for you and Annie buddy. This episode has to be worth a chapter or two in MARLG.
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Every once in a while I get the urge to look at a diesel pusher and then reality hits and I just nod and say hmmm, maybe I won't. I feel for you and Annie buddy. This episode has to be worth a chapter or two in MARLG.
Dennis, I am as sold today on a DP as ever. I can't find anything to fault with the coach, Allison 6, or the engine performance. I can however point to individuals who should never be allowed near one. The problem is, they don't have an X on their forehead.

I suspect if you owned one, you would love it and never have this happen to you. I don't belive it is a common issue, but knew that it can happen. I am disappointed that it can't be resolved more quickly. Again perhaps some smoke up my tail pipe, but I do expect full recovery and many miles of service.
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Thats cool.... He is the one who was so helpful to you wasnt he? Congrats to him....

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Bonita having brain surgery - the surgeon had to take a break - came and gave me an update.

He says he and the shop foreman will be on it in in the morning. Still thinks 2 more hours minimum. I can't fathom it. But gotta roll with it.
I'm having deja vu ....
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