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Old 05-14-2016, 09:43 AM   #54503
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Someone please talk my wife down from the ledge.

We're again shopping for a DP, as missy hates the ride in our gasser. Any Tiffin or Newmar owners out there that can weigh in? Good, bad, warranty issues, etc. God help me, I'm looking at 2012-2014 and Ms. Moneybags is looking at brand spanking new.

Entegra is my favorite brand, but my last name isn't Buffet or Rockefeller.

Oh, the humanity..
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Old 05-14-2016, 10:32 AM   #54504
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Someone please talk my wife down from the ledge.

We're again shopping for a DP, as missy hates the ride in our gasser. Any Tiffin or Newmar owners out there that can weigh in? Good, bad, warranty issues, etc. God help me, I'm looking at 2012-2014 and Ms. Moneybags is looking at brand spanking new.

Entegra is my favorite brand, but my last name isn't Buffet or Rockefeller.

Oh, the humanity..
Well at least you're both RV oriented. Can you imagine if she didn't want anything to do with RVing... imagine the friction there... oh the Humanity!
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Old 05-14-2016, 10:54 AM   #54505
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Someone please talk my wife down from the ledge.

We're again shopping for a DP, as missy hates the ride in our gasser. Any Tiffin or Newmar owners out there that can weigh in? Good, bad, warranty issues, etc. God help me, I'm looking at 2012-2014 and Ms. Moneybags is looking at brand spanking new.

Entegra is my favorite brand, but my last name isn't Buffet or Rockefeller.

Oh, the humanity..
You might want to read this thread that is slanted towards Newmar (it's on their forum). OP asked for differences between the two brands.
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Someone please talk my wife down from the ledge.

We're again shopping for a DP, as missy hates the ride in our gasser. Any Tiffin or Newmar owners out there that can weigh in? Good, bad, warranty issues, etc. God help me, I'm looking at 2012-2014 and Ms. Moneybags is looking at brand spanking new.

Entegra is my favorite brand, but my last name isn't Buffet or Rockefeller.

Oh, the humanity..
Elizabeth,

DPs scare me a bit because of size and much more complicated systems. Have you read Steve's nightmare of a week trying to get Bonita back on the road? Does Mary drive your gasser now? Will she drive a DP? My understanding is they are considerably more expensive to maintain. How far and how often does she usually ride, or is that just her best argument? I know you are both very busy now. Perhaps you can convince her to wait until you are closer to retirement?

Or is Mary not the only one wanting a DP?
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Old 05-14-2016, 11:36 AM   #54507
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Hello Billy and Kris. Study for the test, give yourselves a year or to to memorize, you are from Arkansas, and then answer the questions. No cheating - so don't ask Tim or any of the others from that area as they probably have forgotten the correct answers. They do know the test questions though.

BTW, I'm the only sane one on this thread. Also, once you have been properly assigned a number, you will be given an alternative means of communications. It is that means that you must ask me for my theme song. Everyone loves it, as the love me.

Hopefully a welcome will be in the short coming days, hours, or minutes. I'm sure you are smarter than the "others" from you area.
OK Tim didn't tell us there was a test. We are from Arkansas.....I can't even find the test. Where is it?
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OK Tim didn't tell us there was a test. We are from Arkansas.....I can't even find the test. Where is it?

Lol.... Come on Arkie... You can git er dun.... Tim is a good pill pusher but maybe not so good a teacher,,,,

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Elizabeth,

DPs scare me a bit because of size and much more complicated systems. Have you read Steve's nightmare of a week trying to get Bonita back on the road? Does Mary drive your gasser now? Will she drive a DP? My understanding is they are considerably more expensive to maintain. How far and how often does she usually ride, or is that just her best argument? I know you are both very busy now. Perhaps you can convince her to wait until you are closer to retirement?

Or is Mary not the only one wanting a DP?
You know I love ya Barb, but.... the DP isn't the problem here. It's the people working on it. I hope you never have a mechanical issue, but I will bet there are as many incompetent people working on gassers as there are diesels. In fact I met several in my 21 years of owning a Class B. In fact - it was sometimes very difficult to find someone to do mechanical work on it at all, and it was a Ford. Too tall, can't lift it, etc. Once you're out on the road - you're at the mercy of the shops near you.

And sos ya know. It's frustrating dealing with these guys, but not a nightmare. I have friends here and in Santa Fe (where were headed now for 2 nights hotelling). And fortunately I have the wherewithal to hotel it while Bonita sits on their lot. It's a little more expensive than a FHU site but nothing the budget can't handle. And we're having fun. We don't really have to be anywhere except PEI by Aug 1st...

There are only nightmares if you let them in. And afterall, the journey is the destination. All part of the journey.
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Elizabeth,

DPs scare me a bit because of size and much more complicated systems. Have you read Steve's nightmare of a week trying to get Bonita back on the road? Does Mary drive your gasser now? Will she drive a DP? My understanding is they are considerably more expensive to maintain. How far and how often does she usually ride, or is that just her best argument? I know you are both very busy now. Perhaps you can convince her to wait until you are closer to retirement?

Or is Mary not the only one wanting a DP?

Mary flat out refuses to drive any MH. She also won't drive a car on the interstate, but I like driving and do all of it. I have also been camping solo some this year, as Mary is on call every other weekend and we had made reservations for every weekend April through October back in January. Driving bigger doesn't bother me - I'm EVOC certified for fire trucks. The CDL instructor at the local community college said he'd get me through learning what I need to know.

We would like a quieter ride, more stability and a longer coach. DPs are costly to maintain, but also last longer. I'm a year older tomorrow, so retirement is getting closer. If we set up a satellite internet system Mary could work on the road. We did do a maintenance, repairs, taxes, insurance and mortgage amount spreadsheet. All that said, though, Mary usually gets what she wants! We have an appointment next weekend with the Newmar dealer...
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...We have an appointment next weekend with the Newmar dealer...
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But then again...I'm prejudice.
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Happy Birthday tomorrow Elizabeth from one Taurus to another! They say that stubbornness is an inherent quality for us. I resemble that remark, how's about you?

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OK Tim didn't tell us there was a test. We are from Arkansas.....I can't even find the test. Where is it?
You've already passed the first half of the test by stating your 5er doesn't have a full front cap and you don't miss it. The second part of the test is the easiest -- just hold up your right hand and state to the members of this forum that "The Journey is the destination."
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Happy Birthday, Elizabeth... and you too Barb! Bob's is this month, but he is a Gemini.
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Mary flat out refuses to drive any MH. She also won't drive a car on the interstate, but I like driving and do all of it. I have also been camping solo some this year, as Mary is on call every other weekend and we had made reservations for every weekend April through October back in January. Driving bigger doesn't bother me - I'm EVOC certified for fire trucks. The CDL instructor at the local community college said he'd get me through learning what I need to know.

We would like a quieter ride, more stability and a longer coach. DPs are costly to maintain, but also last longer. I'm a year older tomorrow, so retirement is getting closer. If we set up a satellite internet system Mary could work on the road. We did do a maintenance, repairs, taxes, insurance and mortgage amount spreadsheet. All that said, though, Mary usually gets what she wants! We have an appointment next weekend with the Newmar dealer...

I'd seriously think of trading Mary for a gently used Tiffin.....Just saying
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Just for fun! A while back Campdaven was in a DEEP quandary and posted a thread to that effect. What troubled him was that his current MH has lots of toys, FAR more than his previous rigs, BUT he does not have:

"Heat pumps, TPMS, 4 slides (only 2), Electric basement door locks, Keyless entry, ScanGuage (et al), Residential refer, Solar panels, LED lights, Satellite dish, Clear coat, Diamond Shield, Bra, Toad guard, Full width Mud flap, Spare tire, Engine performance chip, Motion sensor lights, Window awnings, Mini-fridge - Freezer, Washer/dryer, Ice maker, Dishwasher, Extra bath, Extend-a-stay, Outdoor recliners, Exhaust brake, Bike rack, A BIRD? (no clue), Rope lights, 2 way radio, Extended Warranty".

He asked , "Why do I not miss this stuff, and why am I happy without them? Am I a mutant?" I replied, Yes, an RV mutant. Takes one it know one. While our rig has some things Daves doesn't, I understand where he's coming from. We traveled many years and miles in a '91 Airstream 190 B Van bought new and kept it until a short while ago. We traveled light and happy. Dave has a diesel in the front, ours is in the rear, yours may be a gasser. No engine qualifications for RV Mutants.

Our Bounder does not have a lot of fancy stuff and doesn't look like the lobby of a casino. That's the way this RV Mutant likes it. BUT, opulent rig owners can be RV Mutants too. We can't all have everything, so we get what suits our circumstance, are glad we did and mutate to meet our environment. We don't miss what we don't have. To the RV Mutant, as Dave likes to say; The journey is our destination. The goal isn't to own the most expensive rig, with the most gadgets, or the place you thought you wanted to go. It's the adventure of getting there your way and exploring and finding things, places, and people you never imagined existed and adapting or mutating to meet the adventure.

Since his original post we have identified some qualities we agree on. You may agree or not, but your thoughts on how to have a great journey are invited.

RV Mutants
  • Protect and grow the nest egg.
  • Don't carry debt. You need the space for important things.
  • Plan your escape and escape your plans. Make the dream happen, then wing it.
  • Don't miss what ya ain't got. Be happy with ya have and to be on the road, your way.
  • Take what ya think ya need and when ya figure out ya don't need it - get rid of it.
  • Take care of what ya have.
  • We also like to pay others to work. Will do small things but won't wash and wax 33+ feet for instance. We're retired!
  • Dave and I both owe our adventure to our DWs who enjoy laughing at us and keeping us in line.
If you are or think you might be an RV Mutant let us know what ya ain't got and don't need - or what ya must have and how you roll - or any qualities ya think make for a happy RV life, present or future. Dave is full timing now - we will be next year - so how ya did you do it, are you an adaptable mutant or a hard schedule planner, and why? Ya don't have to be full time or ever plan to be in order to be an RV Mutant. But ya can't worry about what you can't control, must control the things ya can, and mutate to meet adventures that come your way. This is just for fun and many aspects have been covered already - but hey - If you feel like being a RV Mutant, join in the discussion. Either way -

Safe and happy RV mutating.
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Wow. Who wrote that???

So let me says this about that... it's been a great ride to this point. Many mutants have come and gone, others have become lifelong friends. We have have had some great times together online and in person. And one of the things I'm am most proud of I'm my life is starting this thread and holding to values Dave and I derived and shared with you.

I want to make a point about a couple of those values - specifically protecting and growing the nest egg and not carrying debt.

Barbs post about the cost of ownership of a DP and Elizabeth's and Mary's ponder of getting one is directly linked to those two values.

I would never encourage anyone to do something they shouldn't, can't afford, or sustain. And I wouldn't encourage anyone to "not" follow their own judgement and dream, whatever it may be.

One thing we mutants are is individualist with beliefs, thoughts, and values of our own. But there is only one template to lay over us and that is.... We don't miss what we don't have - And the Journey is the Destination.

I do realize that everyone can't do what we did - remember back when we put a bunch down on Bonita - took out a 20 year note and paid it off in two years. Then bought our new CRV and paid it off in no time flat and retired and hit the road within 1 month. Well, that's what were able to do because we cleared the decks of debt, saved and invested. It's not magic and I encourage everyone to work that kind of escape plan or similar. There are many other ways to go, but knowing that you own your world is liberating. Roaming that world in a rainbow rider of your choice is Magic.

Off to see Santa Fe. Catch ya later mutants!
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