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Old 05-14-2016, 04:38 PM   #54531
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Old 05-14-2016, 04:39 PM   #54532
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Mary flat out refuses to drive any MH. She also won't drive a car on the interstate, but I like driving and do all of it. I have also been camping solo some this year, as Mary is on call every other weekend and we had made reservations for every weekend April through October back in January. Driving bigger doesn't bother me - I'm EVOC certified for fire trucks. The CDL instructor at the local community college said he'd get me through learning what I need to know.

We would like a quieter ride, more stability and a longer coach. DPs are costly to maintain, but also last longer. I'm a year older tomorrow, so retirement is getting closer. If we set up a satellite internet system Mary could work on the road. We did do a maintenance, repairs, taxes, insurance and mortgage amount spreadsheet. All that said, though, Mary usually gets what she wants! We have an appointment next weekend with the Newmar dealer...

I'd seriously think of trading Mary for a gently used Tiffin.....Just saying
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Just for fun! A while back Campdaven was in a DEEP quandary and posted a thread to that effect. What troubled him was that his current MH has lots of toys, FAR more than his previous rigs, BUT he does not have:

"Heat pumps, TPMS, 4 slides (only 2), Electric basement door locks, Keyless entry, ScanGuage (et al), Residential refer, Solar panels, LED lights, Satellite dish, Clear coat, Diamond Shield, Bra, Toad guard, Full width Mud flap, Spare tire, Engine performance chip, Motion sensor lights, Window awnings, Mini-fridge - Freezer, Washer/dryer, Ice maker, Dishwasher, Extra bath, Extend-a-stay, Outdoor recliners, Exhaust brake, Bike rack, A BIRD? (no clue), Rope lights, 2 way radio, Extended Warranty".

He asked , "Why do I not miss this stuff, and why am I happy without them? Am I a mutant?" I replied, Yes, an RV mutant. Takes one it know one. While our rig has some things Daves doesn't, I understand where he's coming from. We traveled many years and miles in a '91 Airstream 190 B Van bought new and kept it until a short while ago. We traveled light and happy. Dave has a diesel in the front, ours is in the rear, yours may be a gasser. No engine qualifications for RV Mutants.

Our Bounder does not have a lot of fancy stuff and doesn't look like the lobby of a casino. That's the way this RV Mutant likes it. BUT, opulent rig owners can be RV Mutants too. We can't all have everything, so we get what suits our circumstance, are glad we did and mutate to meet our environment. We don't miss what we don't have. To the RV Mutant, as Dave likes to say; The journey is our destination. The goal isn't to own the most expensive rig, with the most gadgets, or the place you thought you wanted to go. It's the adventure of getting there your way and exploring and finding things, places, and people you never imagined existed and adapting or mutating to meet the adventure.

Since his original post we have identified some qualities we agree on. You may agree or not, but your thoughts on how to have a great journey are invited.

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  • Protect and grow the nest egg.
  • Don't carry debt. You need the space for important things.
  • Plan your escape and escape your plans. Make the dream happen, then wing it.
  • Don't miss what ya ain't got. Be happy with ya have and to be on the road, your way.
  • Take what ya think ya need and when ya figure out ya don't need it - get rid of it.
  • Take care of what ya have.
  • We also like to pay others to work. Will do small things but won't wash and wax 33+ feet for instance. We're retired!
  • Dave and I both owe our adventure to our DWs who enjoy laughing at us and keeping us in line.
If you are or think you might be an RV Mutant let us know what ya ain't got and don't need - or what ya must have and how you roll - or any qualities ya think make for a happy RV life, present or future. Dave is full timing now - we will be next year - so how ya did you do it, are you an adaptable mutant or a hard schedule planner, and why? Ya don't have to be full time or ever plan to be in order to be an RV Mutant. But ya can't worry about what you can't control, must control the things ya can, and mutate to meet adventures that come your way. This is just for fun and many aspects have been covered already - but hey - If you feel like being a RV Mutant, join in the discussion. Either way -

Safe and happy RV mutating.
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Wow. Who wrote that???

So let me says this about that... it's been a great ride to this point. Many mutants have come and gone, others have become lifelong friends. We have have had some great times together online and in person. And one of the things I'm am most proud of I'm my life is starting this thread and holding to values Dave and I derived and shared with you.

I want to make a point about a couple of those values - specifically protecting and growing the nest egg and not carrying debt.

Barbs post about the cost of ownership of a DP and Elizabeth's and Mary's ponder of getting one is directly linked to those two values.

I would never encourage anyone to do something they shouldn't, can't afford, or sustain. And I wouldn't encourage anyone to "not" follow their own judgement and dream, whatever it may be.

One thing we mutants are is individualist with beliefs, thoughts, and values of our own. But there is only one template to lay over us and that is.... We don't miss what we don't have - And the Journey is the Destination.

I do realize that everyone can't do what we did - remember back when we put a bunch down on Bonita - took out a 20 year note and paid it off in two years. Then bought our new CRV and paid it off in no time flat and retired and hit the road within 1 month. Well, that's what were able to do because we cleared the decks of debt, saved and invested. It's not magic and I encourage everyone to work that kind of escape plan or similar. There are many other ways to go, but knowing that you own your world is liberating. Roaming that world in a rainbow rider of your choice is Magic.

Off to see Santa Fe. Catch ya later mutants!
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Old 05-14-2016, 04:50 PM   #54534
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Mary flat out refuses to drive any MH. She also won't drive a car on the interstate, but I like driving and do all of it. I have also been camping solo some this year, as Mary is on call every other weekend and we had made reservations for every weekend April through October back in January. Driving bigger doesn't bother me - I'm EVOC certified for fire trucks. The CDL instructor at the local community college said he'd get me through learning what I need to know.

We would like a quieter ride, more stability and a longer coach. DPs are costly to maintain, but also last longer. I'm a year older tomorrow, so retirement is getting closer. If we set up a satellite internet system Mary could work on the road. We did do a maintenance, repairs, taxes, insurance and mortgage amount spreadsheet. All that said, though, Mary usually gets what she wants! We have an appointment next weekend with the Newmar dealer...
I will be driving the 23 year old DP motorhome into the southern tip of Death Valley on a holiday weekend soon to come. Short drive but I will check all of the fluid levels, belt condition, etc. and point it toward the campground.

We paid cash for it and it is not the best looking rig but has impeccable service records and we are the third owner. One Brother bought it new and sold it to his younger Brother, then it landed here.

Non electronic engine, no aqua hot, etc. and it could be bigger but it isn't. There are a few people here at iRV2 that like the older units....me, as I have no choice.

Sorry for the rambling. Wife and Grandson talking to me at the same time.
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Well with all that Steve said, all I can say is I love my DP, its quiet and I'm riding on air, its taking care of me so I'm taking care of it. When things go wrong you get them fixed, remember it doesn't matter if it's gas or diesel there will be things other than drive train that will go wrong, wear out or simply break, that's life, and so you either fix them or sell it. I'm still significantly enamored with mine, that I don't mind fixing it, and now I can enjoy my fixes ....

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Old 05-14-2016, 05:02 PM   #54536
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Hey Sam! (Mike)
Good to hear from ya. And your coach looked good to me (pics you posted).

So to carry on with the theme - One thing sitting around Freightliner did was give us a chance to make some new "driver" friends! Numerous.

John for instance was talking about his DD. As he put it "it's a 2011 but only has 500,000 miles on it." And from there the stories just flowed. Similar and grand. Yes - they grouse because they're down time cost them money and repairs aren't cheap, but they're usually few and far between.

Have fun with the one that brung ya.

Gotta run for sure now.
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Old 05-14-2016, 05:12 PM   #54537
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Well with all that Steve said, all I can say is I love my DP, its quiet and I'm riding on air, its taking care of me so I'm taking care of it. When things go wrong you get them fixed, ...
You know you love your coach when you repair the toilet seal, ball valve & black tank dump valve all in the same day. LOL

It's a dirty job but someone's got to do it.
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Hey Sam! (Mike)
Good to hear from ya. And your coach looked good to me (pics you posted).

So to carry on with the theme - One thing sitting around Freightliner did was give us a chance to make some new "driver" friends! Numerous.

John for instance was talking about his DD. As he put it "it's a 2011 but only has 500,000 miles on it." And from there the stories just flowed. Similar and grand. Yes - they grouse because they're down time cost them money and repairs aren't cheap, but they're usually few and far between.

Have fun with the one that brung ya.

Gotta run for sure now.
Steve, Hope you're listening for the whistle of a turbo soon...If you can hear it.

We're enjoying the bit of "The Dance" that we get to experience.
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Steve, Hope you're listening for the whistle of a turbo soon...If you can hear it.

We're enjoying the bit of "The Dance" that we get to experience.

I have an advantage there. Even with hearing aids I can't hear a turbo whistle. It's a gift!
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You know I love ya Barb, but.... the DP isn't the problem here. It's the people working on it. I hope you never have a mechanical issue, but I will bet there are as many incompetent people working on gassers as there are diesels. In fact I met several in my 21 years of owning a Class B. In fact - it was sometimes very difficult to find someone to do mechanical work on it at all, and it was a Ford. Too tall, can't lift it, etc. Once you're out on the road - you're at the mercy of the shops near you.

And sos ya know. It's frustrating dealing with these guys, but not a nightmare. I have friends here and in Santa Fe (where were headed now for 2 nights hotelling). And fortunately I have the wherewithal to hotel it while Bonita sits on their lot. It's a little more expensive than a FHU site but nothing the budget can't handle. And we're having fun. We don't really have to be anywhere except PEI by Aug 1st...

There are only nightmares if you let them in. And afterall, the journey is the destination. All part of the journey.
LOL I guess I'm looking at being without your Rainbow rider as a nightmare because that's what it would be for me. My little family is only portable because of our RV.

This coach is monkey proof, which has not been easy and is continuously evolving. As Sena learns to bypass a safeguard, I have to invent or invest in something new to defeat her innate foraging instinct. I can't discipline that out of her without instilling great ongoing fear and no creature can thrive in such an environment. The only other way would be to cage her whenever she isn't leashed to me which is also no way to live.

If I was forced out by someone else's incompetence I would threaten that they would have us as house guests. I can guarantee that we'd be back on the road before nightfall.

Now if we added Sena to Papaw Steve's suggested group of rowdy kids and threw in some gooey, sugar-loaded snacks and drinks... I see land speed records being broken.
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You know you love your coach when you repair the toilet seal, ball valve & black tank dump valve all in the same day. LOL

It's a dirty job but someone's got to do it.
I was pleasantly surprised at how easy that was to do on our Thetford Traveler. Ohh not counting the black tank dump valve as I didn't have to do that. I bought the kit in Quartszite and finally got around to installing it after we got back to the S&B.
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Ok, Mike aka Sam60 and Mel aka MPH and a few of you others -- PLEASE put your coach and toad and whatever other info you can into your signature space. It helps give clarity to what you are explaining when you post. It's not bragging to put it there or hiding if you don't. We are mutants and it doesn't matter if you have a million dollar setup or an eBay bargain find. We all mutate differently, but what is important is that we do mutate!

If you need a bit of assistance with the process you can yell HELP or PM someone who has theirs like you would like yours. I'll start you off with step 1 -- click on "User CP" on the left side in the first thick green border at the top of this page.
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Howdy Dave,

I love the whistle of a turbo. I've enjoyed it in my '05 Cummins pickup for 305, 000 miles so far. I can faintly hear it in the old short bus & it is music to me.

Hope to meet up with you someday.

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