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Old 04-07-2015, 06:38 PM   #1
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Relocate to save tax

I am pondering selling up in CA and buy or rent something small in Oregon to save on sales tax for a motorhome then spend my winters where i currently live. Hss anyone advice on this subject.
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Old 04-07-2015, 06:43 PM   #2
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You will need to make sure you truly establish residency in Oregon. See what is needed to qualify but also see what other costs there may be to being in that state. Things like registrations, real estate taxes (which you will pay with your rent), health insurance costs as well as vehicle insurance costs. There is always more to the story than just sales tax.
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Old 04-07-2015, 09:18 PM   #3
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CA is going to look for you to totally sever ties with the state. From what I understand, spending part of every year "back home" is going to look to CA as though you are just shifting to avoid taxes rather than truly changing your domicile and they are aggressive about tax collection. Here is just one article on the topic, if you google "changing California domicile" you will find many others.

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Old 04-07-2015, 09:26 PM   #4
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OR also has an income tax of about 9% or at least is was that low when I worked there and lived in WA. That was about 12 years ago so it may have gone up by now.
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Old 04-07-2015, 09:38 PM   #5
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You are not the first to think of buying a vehicle in the next state over to save sales tax, and you can bet that any trick you can think of has been seen by the California tax authorities 10,000 times over. If you still want to try then I would document the hell out of it, and even then you may be in for a rough time should it come up on someone's desk.

Plus as mentioned Oregon has rather high income and property taxes so you need to look at your total tax picture over several years, not just a one-time sales tax savings.
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A lot of states (WA is one) are very aggressive when on the lookout for tax cheats, especially on big ticket items.
Even back in the 60's they were on the lookout. I was driving the boss's car with OR plates (he lived in OR and the business was in WA). While talking to the officer the owner of the house he stopped me in front of opened the garage door. There sat two OR licensed cars!! The officer said "Thank God" and let me go while he had a chat with the home owner!
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Oregon has an income tax so you won't save anything there. You can legally buy a rv in CA, take out of state delivery, keep it out of CA for a period of time and not have to pay CA sales tax on it.

You might want to spend some time reading BOE PUB52 for further info. Very easy to do, I bought two coaches using the out of state delivery and didn't pay sales (use tax) on either one. www.boe.ca.gov/pdf/pub52.pdf
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You should certainly check with your CPA to be sure but things like this are very possible. We once purchased a large boat in fl and we registered in in another state where we were residents. We had to remove the boat from fl within a certain time frame and remain out of the state for what I beleive was 90 days. To travel out of state and stay there and then return cost us almost the same as what tax would have been, but I can assure you that boat trip was a lot more fun than writing a check to the irs. The rv would also me much less expensive to relocate, the boat only got 0.3 mpg.
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You should certainly check with your CPA to be sure but things like this are very possible. We once purchased a large boat in fl and we registered in in another state where we were residents. We had to remove the boat from fl within a certain time frame and remain out of the state for what I beleive was 90 days. To travel out of state and stay there and then return cost us almost the same as what tax would have been, but I can assure you that boat trip was a lot more fun than writing a check to the irs. The rv would also me much less expensive to relocate, the boat only got 0.3 mpg.
And fuel at the dock is much more expensive than on land! Our yacht club didn't have it's own fuel dock so it was a few miles down river and back. By then you had used a tank!
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Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined us!

Can't help with your question, but enjoy the forum!

Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
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You should certainly check with your CPA to be sure but things like this are very possible. We once purchased a large boat in fl and we registered in in another state where we were residents. We had to remove the boat from fl within a certain time frame and remain out of the state for what I beleive was 90 days. To travel out of state and stay there and then return cost us almost the same as what tax would have been, but I can assure you that boat trip was a lot more fun than writing a check to the irs. The rv would also me much less expensive to relocate, the boat only got 0.3 mpg.
We see a large yacht come "home" from Ft. Lauderdale periodically. It's a 350 ton superyacht at about $25 million. I figured the owner would get hit with a big ad valorem tax in Florida if it stayed there. It takes 3 employees to move the boat, including a full time boat captain.

I've also had friend with a very large sailboat docked in Nassau--and it never sees the U.S.

Your note explains the reason for the big boat being in town.
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