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Old 10-19-2011, 01:29 PM   #1
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We had a group going on the Freedom of the Seas last Sunday one of the guest was detained they found a Bullet in his suitcase and would not let him on the ship or refund his money he did not know the bullet was there
We was very upset and talked to everyone we could and they said no way he was going on the ship after a 7 hour drive there he had to go back home 7 more hours he lost $2200.00 they offered nothing

Do you think this was the right move?

This is a good kid I coached in Baseball and he grew up in Church we was
not happy with rccl at the time but after thinking about it I will feel safer
on our next Cruise
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Old 10-19-2011, 01:52 PM   #2
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So you feel safer with no way to protect yourself than with something for protection? You have a God given right to protect yourself and you agree with placing that in someone else's hands?
The hijackers in Somalia would love that.
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Old 10-19-2011, 02:16 PM   #3
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So you feel safer with no way to protect yourself than with something for protection? You have a God given right to protect yourself and you agree with placing that in someone else's hands?
The hijackers in Somalia would love that.
I can see both sides to this, but I feel the person should have had their money refunded.

Also if I am going to take a cruise near Somalia, the cruise ship will be painted Gray and carry Cruise Missiles....
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is that why they are called "cruise" missiles?
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:11 PM   #5
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We had a group going on the Freedom of the Seas last Sunday one of the guest was detained they found a Bullet in his suitcase and would not let him on the ship or refund his money he did not know the bullet was there
We was very upset and talked to everyone we could and they said no way he was going on the ship after a 7 hour drive there he had to go back home 7 more hours he lost $2200.00 they offered nothing

Do you think this was the right move?

This is a good kid I coached in Baseball and he grew up in Church we was
not happy with rccl at the time but after thinking about it I will feel safer
on our next Cruise
There must be more to the story than you are saying. Per the Royal Carribbean web site, it states that restricted items will be confiscated. Nothing about being detained or not allowed onboard.

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Weapons, illegal drugs, and other items that could interfere with the safe operation of the ship or the safe and secure environment of our guests and crew are prohibited. The United States Transportation Security Administration also recommends that you do not pack fragile or expensive items (such as jewelry) in checked luggage.
The following are examples of items that guests are not allowed to bring onboard. These and other similar items will be confiscated upon being found. Alcoholic beverages, illegal drugs, flammable liquids, explosives, and dangerous chemicals will not be returned.
  • Firearms & Ammunition, including realistic replicas.
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:23 PM   #6
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is that why they are called "cruise" missiles?
Why yes it is.. You see they provide a very high level of comfort for the people using them as they just cruise in and take out the bad guys and make good guys of them...
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[QUOTE=edj;987617]There must be more to the story than you are saying. Per the Royal Carribbean web site, it states that restricted items will be confiscated. Nothing about being detained or not allowed onboard. [QUOTE]

Waiting with baited breath This should be interesting. D
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There must be more to the story than you are saying. Per the Royal Carribbean web site, it states that restricted items will be confiscated. Nothing about being detained or not allowed onboard.
Aren't there usually two sides to a story.

Just curious, what happens if you try to board an airplane with a bullet? Wouldn't you spend quite a bit of time explaining why you had a bullet then possibly catch a plane some hours later to your destination.
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Oh gosh! The forgot to exclude so many items that can be used as a weapon. Same thing on airplanes. Try taking a 1 inch swiss knife on board. It has a little set of scissors, a small knife blade, and a file and screw driver blade. All are very small. Nope can't do it.

But I can take a roller ball point pen on board that will pierce skin in a split second.

It's all for show. I'm glad they are looking, but I think some common sense should be restored.

okay! You can chastise me now.

p.s., I think he should have received a good portion of his money back and what they kept would be for minimal administration costs. Also, did he have "cruise" insurance. How would it fit in if he did - I don't know.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:33 PM   #10
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He did not take out insurance (mistake) that is the whole story we had 11 people that went the guy is very clean cut very nice and polite kid his girlfriend packed there bags and he had a bag that he kept a gun in and the clip was in the side of the bag he removed the gun but not the clip I did find out it had 7 bullets in it I don't think that is enough to not let him on the ship that is the whole story they wouldn't let him on
I think they overbooked the ship and was looking for someone to through off they did tell him they would give him 20% off a future cruise
My wife called and talked to everyone she could and they said there was no way he was getting on the ship
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So "A Bullet" turns in to a clip. Did his girl friend stay on the ship.?

BTW...only in a real screw up do cruise lines over book a ship. They know there will not be no shows like on an airplane. Cabins are assigned sometimes months in advance.

Did the girl friend have the pistol for the clip? Anxiously waiting on the rest of the story.
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No gun just a clip with 7 bullets girlfriend came home with him
I don't think 7 bullets can bring down a ship without a gun
They should have kept the clip and let them cruise again they said there was no way he was getting on the ship
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No gun just a clip with 7 bullets girlfriend came home with him
I don't think 7 bullets can bring down a ship without a gun
They should have kept the clip and let them cruise again they said there was no way he was getting on the ship
If the story is just as you have stated, he has a good case against Royal Caribbean. There own web site specifically states that ammunition will be confiscated (my link in post #5 above). THAT IS ALL. Nothing about being banned from the cruise. Assuming that he did not start giving them a hard time about it, he should escalate the issue to higher management to make them stand by their stated policy and give him a refund for the cruise and his expenses. He might even push for a free cruise in the future for their screw-up.
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How hard is it to check luggage prior to travel to make sure there are no clips with bullets? Might take all of a few seconds. It is almost ridiculous in our society today to think that nobody would notice.

As to your real issue about being denied, probably the best course of action in the future is to be sure that nothing is done that gives anybody a reason to deny boarding. Look at the hassle that a few seconds of double checking luggage would have saved.

I hope that they offer another trip for reduced cost but that is hardly any consolation as it will occur at another time and perhaps with other people.
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