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04-19-2016, 03:32 AM
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#29
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Escondido, CA
Posts: 115
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Originally Posted by Tightwadted
Hey WannaBFLtimer, I too had the greatest job in the world for 38 years! I miss the kids, making music every day, etc. BUT- I do not miss all the stuff that has come down the pike from "education experts". We could argue the benefits of Music Ed forever. I'll just give you 1 example of refuting the "We can't afford it" argument - 1 band director teaching 75 students, get rid of him and hire 3 teachers to teach 25 students each, where is the cost savings? Band and choir teachers are the greatest bargain in Education. OK, getting off the soapbox now.
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So true! And talk about teaching skills necessary for success! Team work, commitment, conflict resolution, leadership, goal setting, and time+effort+focus=achievement. And NO ONE sits on a bench!
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04-19-2016, 11:01 AM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Phoenix, Oregon
Posts: 2,207
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My wife was a teacher and retired early because of "teach to the test" changes in the original cirriculum.
Last evening our daughter-in-law, who is a playground assistant at the elementary school, was visiting and I asked about the music program at our school. It has been discontinued there also, along with a number of other programs because of budget constrictions.
At this point I'm confused. If we spend more money per student than most other countries, where is the money being spent? Also, if we also do one of the worst jobs educating our students, should changes be made? Is the problem teacher unions? If not, what?
I'm all for returning to sanity and bringing some of the useful programs back. Not everyone goes to college.
Steve
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04-19-2016, 11:53 AM
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#31
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Senior Member
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Pensacola
Posts: 2,728
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Originally Posted by dix39
I'm all for returning to sanity and bringing some of the useful programs back. Not everyone goes to college.
Steve
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College may soon become an entitlement or a "right", everyone will go whether they need /use it or not. There are many occupations that do not need a college education.
Multiply the number of students attending, all at government expense and watch what little quality exists now plummet, as the cost increases tremendously.
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04-19-2016, 07:29 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Jayco Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,199
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If everyone has a college education, there won't be anyone left to start new businesses.
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04-19-2016, 07:37 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,391
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I don't hear any talk about dumping football or basketball.
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04-19-2016, 08:07 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Fulltime, USA
Posts: 16,706
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Originally Posted by stuhly
I don't hear any talk about dumping football or basketball.
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Of course not. They produce positive revenue streams.
Dave and Nola, RV Mutants
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