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Old 12-18-2012, 06:53 PM   #29
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If you look at these various shootings around the country it seems to me that they occur nearly always in a place where the perpetrator, crazy or not, can be reasonably certain that no one will be carrying a gun. It would be a sad day when everyone in the USA felt as if they had to carry a gun to be safe.
As much as I hate to admit it, there does seem to be some logic in what you are saying. Unfortunately, I also think the "sad day" has actually arrived! With over 270,000,000 firearms in America it seems that most citizens have reached the point where they do, in fact, feel it is necessary to carry a gun in order to feel safe. The rubicon, so to speak, has been crossed and it appears that there is no turning back. The violent & often tragic consequences of everyone packing heat would also appear to be inevitable and increasing exponentially every year.

Welcome to a world of gated communities, CCTV monitoring, private police, armed security patrols, armour plated cars, personal security bodyguards for everyone in the family, kidnap & hostage insurance ........where freedom will come with a very heavy price tag and will only exist for those who can afford to live within a security bubble. For everyone else it will be an ever more difficult challenge to navigate a very dangerous landscape.

We live in Mexico and have first hand experience with walled communities, CCTV, security patrols, personal security, kidnapping, etc......it's not so bad if you can afford it....not so good otherwise! At least only the gangsters have guns, so you don't have to be worried that your neighbour will inadvertently shoot you!
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I just saw an idea I thought was a good one. The suggestion was made that all schools set aside an area (office,room,desk etc) where a police officer (notably CHP) could drop in and write their reports. Might even work for local police. The idea is that the LEO would like to get reports written before they get back to station and many seek out quiet spots or deserted restaurants to do it. If they could just stop at a school with a prominent parking spot (a visual deterrent) this could provide a modicum of security with very little cost???
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I HAVE HEARD, that the Japanese had intentions of invading the US Mainland but they knew about the 2nd Amendment and assumed every American was armed and decided against the attack. Had they proceeded with an attack on the US Mainland they would not have been stopped until they got to the Mississippi River - and we all may be speaking a different language today.

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Here in Canada we have very stringent pistol rules and assault rifles are banned. The crooks walk about brazenly shooting people with highly restricted and banned weapons. Who would have thought they would be so crass.
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I just saw an idea I thought was a good one. The suggestion was made that all schools set aside an area (office,room,desk etc) where a police officer (notably CHP) could drop in and write their reports. Might even work for local police. The idea is that the LEO would like to get reports written before they get back to station and many seek out quiet spots or deserted restaurants to do it. If they could just stop at a school with a prominent parking spot (a visual deterrent) this could provide a modicum of security with very little cost???
That's one of the best ideas I've heard. There's nothing like the presence of a policeman to keep everyone on their best behavior. I've noticed that here on my street. There's a small hill just east of where I live. People will start down that hill and just floorboard the accelerator. They can get up to perhaps 70 or 80 by the time they get in front of my house before they have to start braking for the stop sign at the next corner.

The family that lives 2 doors down the street from have 2 sons and they are both cops. In Jacksonville police take there cars home with them, drive them to the store, etc. Anytime those guys are visiting mom and dad I can here the screeching of cars slamming on their brakes when they spot a cop car in the yard.
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Here in Canada we have very stringent pistol rules and assault rifles are banned. The crooks walk about brazenly shooting people with highly restricted and banned weapons. Who would have thought they would be so crass.

The only people who will abide by the laws are the honest people. Those with intent to rob or harm people will still do it. One can then say, "restrict the sale," or, "Don't sell," but that will most likely cause some individual on the street to become a very rich person selling those illegal items.
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The only people who will abide by the laws are the honest people. Those with intent to rob or harm people will still do it. One can then say, "restrict the sale," or, "Don't sell," but that will most likely cause some individual on the street to become a very rich person selling those illegal items.



You mean like drugs??
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I don't think you are off-topic. Your comment is most likely what will happen if anything is made illegal. The illegal items will still be for sale by the profiteers. Should drugs be made legal? No, i'm just providing an analogy as you did. It could be any it item. If it is wanted it will be provided and there isn't much any one, or law enforcement agency, can do about it.
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I believe that values have changed. When I was growing up policemen did not have to wear bullet proof vest. You would never even think about shooting a police officer. My parents never locked a door. All your neighbors looked after you and your house, not today. You can't even leave your car unlock for 5 minutes.

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I believe that values have changed. When I was growing up policemen did not have to wear bullet proof vest. You would never even think about shooting a police officer. My parents never locked a door. All your neighbors looked after you and your house, not today. You can't even leave your car unlock for 5 minutes.

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That all kinda depends on where you live.
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This might be interesting to some folks here:

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