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Old 08-03-2013, 11:38 PM   #15
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Schools now don't teach the Constitution and if the do they skip some of the Amendments as irrelevant today or some text books leave the out completely.
What they needed to be teaching is geography. And not just the US of A !!
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Old 08-03-2013, 11:48 PM   #16
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I don't know if you noticed or not - but when he held up the map, he had Australia marked as IRAN in one shot and as North Korea in another with New Zealand showing as South Korea.

I had an interesting online conversation with a local teacher talking about how they were having to implement a credit system for kids to put their cellphones in a holder at the front of the classroom at the start of the lesson. I expressed my incredulity and he explained that parents went ballistic if they told the kids they couldn't bring cellphones to school.

There is something seriously wrong with education and parenting in this country. I am sure it exists elsewhere but not to this degree.
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I saw a similar skit on some TV show where they set up a table at a college campus that had a banner that said "Sign the petition to END WOMENS SUFFRAGE! Women have suffered enough!" The line was huge.
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Old 08-04-2013, 07:12 AM   #18
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Well.. Some days I wonder, But I have to agree "You could go to any country and film 1,000 people and likely cut it down to the 20 most stupid and make a film like that.

Most of the questions he ask I had the answer to.. Some I did not clearly hear the question and thus can not answer.

However I am NOT typical either.. I do research for the fun of it. and thus pick up a lot of trivia on the way.
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As someone having been in management for a lot of years and interviewed many, many people for myriad positions, I'll state the dumbing down of America is real.
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As someone having been in management for a lot of years and interviewed many, many people for myriad positions, I'll state the dumbing down of America is real.
I won't take issue with this, but I will say that I have seen many of these no nothings do astounding work. They are different for sure and as the first real generation of tenchno "kids" many are highly trainable quick studies, especially where a computer is required. I have also met interns and recent grads that are true whiz kids. The whiz kids stand out as they always did - the others are diamonds in the rough and take some special handling to identify the gems. All is not lost methinks. There have always been folks a few bricks short of a load. Not everyone is destined for management. And this group puts a priority on life and enjoying it. A different work ethic for sure. But not all that different from that of the hippies that grew out of it to make things like this forum and the iPhone I'm using to reply. Again - all is not lost. Those who sell America short have always been wrong.

We should check the glass again - it is more likely half full than half empty. Just a thought...
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I won't take issue with this, but I will say that I have seen many of these no nothings do astounding work. They are different for sure and as the first real generation of tenchno "kids" many are highly trainable quick studies, especially where a computer is required. I have also met interns and recent grads that are true whiz kids. The whiz kids stand out as they always did - the others are diamonds in the rough and take some special handling to identify the gems. All is not lost methinks. There have always been folks a few bricks short of a load. Not everyone is destined for management. And this group puts a priority on life and enjoying it. A different work ethic for sure. But not all that different from that of the hippies that grew out of it to make things like this forum and the iPhone I'm using to reply. Again - all is not lost. Those who sell America short have always been wrong.

We should check the glass again - it is more likely half full than half empty. Just a thought...
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Let's not forget the purpose of these shows. They will interview as many people as they have to just to get enough for a minute or two of air time to show what they want to emphasize. It's called editing!

I used to like the "Waters World" segment on "The O'reilly Factor." Yes, he showed the ones that couldn't buy a clue, but balanced it with a few that knew what was going on in the world.

And, each generation seems to think they are the greatest and the next one is going to hell in a hand basket!

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I frequent this café every day and when I can, I get involved in a conversation. Also involved in car club, Vets hall, ect.

It seems that many people under 40 don't have a clue what's going on in this country.

The sad thing is that if they knew, half of them could care less


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Given the way that the US is polarized on political viewpoints by being fed a diet of lies, deceits, half truths and sound bites, the fact that a large percentage of the population appears unable to discuss anything outside of the US isn't surprising.

One of the reasons that I posted in the first place was after various discussions with people over time who were extremely polarized about their Republican or Democratic views and were oh so happy to tell you how great / bad their favorite/most hated politician was - but were unable to hold a discussion about the Middle East, world economics or other such subjects. Their knowledge and understanding of the issues behind their political views would also seem to be based upon popular TV reporting rather than any independent thought process.

The one thing that did surprise me, is how well people knew the names of every player in their political groups - quite amazing, seriously.
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I saw a similar skit on some TV show where they set up a table at a college campus that had a banner that said "Sign the petition to END WOMENS SUFFRAGE! Women have suffered enough!" The line was huge.

now that right there is funny.
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And just think, every single one of those folks has a right to vote. 'Nuff said!
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The question should be how arrogant are the people who take and edit these polls. Gee, who is buried in Grant's tomb? It's an old joke. I would venture to say more than 75% of the worlds population could not answer those questions. There are so many folks on here that are retired, (including myself) that have the time to read the paper, watch cable programs that are very educational.

If you took the majority of people retired, or near retirement age, and gave them a quiz on pop culture, computer knowledge, and real current events, the majority of them could not answer these questions.

The location of North Korea, Iran, and what is Gettysburg will do nothing for most of these young people trying to get a job or survive on the streets. There are so many bright, educated, wonderful young people out there. They are going to be in control, and they will do a good job.

This U-tube video is nothing but another example of the the manipulation of information by the media.

When we were taught all this history, and geography, the world was a lot smaller and a LOT less complicated. There are a lot more challenges to survival today than ever before. As long as you and yours are doing well and getting along in the world, that's all you can ask.
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The thing that hacks me off is when you try to have a conversation with a lot of people they jack with there I phones or what ever and don't hear half the conversation. This IMHO is why people don't learn to busy texting or looking at some crap on their phones.
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