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Old 07-07-2013, 12:22 AM   #1
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Sewer hose failure

At the dump station my rv sewer hose connector came off-- the RV end-- right when I pulled open the valve on the black water tank. Got the valve closed after I realized what was happening.

I had what I thought was a good hose, one of the rhino kind I've read recommended. I even got the grey version which I remember seemed more better.

I could not get the hose to screw into the connector and "lock" in so I went and got a new hose- this time the orange camco rhino version.

I'm terrified to use it though. Don't want this to happen again.

Is this something that happens? Or did I screw up and cause this failure without knowing?
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:58 AM   #2
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At the dump station my rv sewer hose connector came off-- the RV end-- right when I pulled open the valve on the black water tank. Got the valve closed after I realized what was happening.

I had what I thought was a good hose, one of the rhino kind I've read recommended. I even got the grey version which I remember seemed more better.

I could not get the hose to screw into the connector and "lock" in so I went and got a new hose- this time the orange camco rhino version.

I'm terrified to use it though. Don't want this to happen again.

Is this something that happens? Or did I screw up and cause this failure without knowing?
I am reluctant to say you screwed up but I have never heard of that happening. Just as long as those four tabs are engaged to the four pins on your valve you should be fine. I would give the hose a good stout pull to make sure it is attached before opening the dump valve next time.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:24 AM   #3
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At the dump station my rv sewer hose connector came off.

I'm terrified to use it though. Don't want this to happen again.

Is this something that happens? Or did I screw up and cause this failure without knowing?
Yikes!

Everyone's worst nightmare.

A "failure" would be the clips breaking. I'm assuming its not this and your issue was the connector became detached??

If so, I'd hazard a guess you didn't double check that the 4 lugs were firmly engaged in the connector tabs...


Handy TIP -

My dad painted a narrow white line on the top of the connector which must line up with a narrow white line painted on the top of the waste pipe. Failure to line up these two white marks could ruin your whole morning....
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:20 AM   #4
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The four connectors were firmly on the four lugs. The sewer hose came out of the connector that mates with the waste hose, the connector remained attached to the RV.

It seems like the Rhino hose screws into the connector with the 4 slots that attaches to the waste hose. It has indicators to turn one way to lock and another to unlock.

I must have turned the end just enough to unlock the connector from the hose or something. Bummer was I could not get the hose back into the end and get it to "Lock".

I'll take an extra careful look at the new hose and the connection before I pull the valve again.
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Old 07-07-2013, 07:42 AM   #5
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It is possible to unlock and loosen the hose on the Rhino system. It is a good idea to look inside the connectors and ensure that the hose is fully engaged. I have a tendency to inadvertently apply twisting force to the connectors as I am connecting so I do have to tighten them up every once in awhile.
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At the dump station my rv sewer hose connector came off-- the RV end-- right when I pulled open the valve on the black water tank. Got the valve closed after I realized what was happening.

I had what I thought was a good hose, one of the rhino kind I've read recommended. I even got the grey version which I remember seemed more better.

I could not get the hose to screw into the connector and "lock" in so I went and got a new hose- this time the orange camco rhino version.

I'm terrified to use it though. Don't want this to happen again.

Is this something that happens? Or did I screw up and cause this failure without knowing?
I've never seen a gray Rhino. Has anyone else? The Rhino's are a dark brown with orange connectors. The connectors are actually 2 piece. When you put the connectors on the hose, a narrow locking ring goes on first. Then the connector goes on. You should turn this main part of the connector on as far as possible then rotate the narrow locking ring in the locking direction until it engages the locking tabs. Be careful and don't go too far in the locking direction or you won't be able to get it back apart with hand pressure.

If you do these above steps, it absolutely not come off it the manner yours did.
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:34 AM   #7
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This is the reason I always give a short blast with the grey water tank before opening the black tank. If anything is going to come loose better to find it with grey water.
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I've never seen a gray Rhino. Has anyone else? The Rhino's are a dark brown with orange connectors. The connectors are actually 2 piece. When you put the connectors on the hose, a narrow locking ring goes on first. Then the connector goes on. You should turn this main part of the connector on as far as possible then rotate the narrow locking ring in the locking direction until it engages the locking tabs. Be careful and don't go too far in the locking direction or you won't be able to get it back apart with hand pressure.

If you do these above steps, it absolutely not come off it the manner yours did.
I have the Rhino extreme. It has grey ends. I think that's the one that failed him. Yikes! I better double check my hose.
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Thanks, Steve, for the info bout making sure the connectors are tight. I made sure the new hose was super secure this morning and dumping was successful.

dons2346, that's a great tip. Thanks.
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Well, "Stuff Happens" as they say, and what happened to you is about as bad as it gets, you did the right thing.

On the Rhino hose, the older ones with out the locking collar, it's fairly easy to accidently unscrew the hose. I get so I check it often.

I think the next one I but I'll get new locking ends along with it.

Recommendation:

Always have some bleach in the house and have a spray bottle in your wet bay with a mix of bleach and water.. Don't need much bleach, a table spoon per pint is actually "Strong" a shot glass per pint is very strong (two tbl) and about what I use.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:52 PM   #11
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Even with the locking collar on the Rhino hose, it can still back off and the hose come out. I always check mine for tightness before I use them.

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After all is said "DUCT TAPE"!
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I am not a fan of the conventional sewer hose connections and replaced mine using ABS camlock fittings. The male fitting is held on with a hose clamp it is not coming off.
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Poop aversion

I had more than one incident dealing with the disposal of black water and decided "never again". I fixed the problem with a maserator pump, simple, clean and some added benefits. No bulky hose, not a bunch of couplings to come loose and I can stay places for extended periods of time that I wouldn't normally be able to. The maserator will pump sewage and grey water 20 ft. uphill and 150 ft away, this is great for visiting folks when they don't have rv hookups in their yard, just plug into their sewer or septic access point. I got mine at Camping World for $300, it's called sani con.

Hope this helps,

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