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Old 12-15-2012, 12:36 PM   #29
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I think there are more bad passengers than there are bad drivers
The latter begats the former.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:27 PM   #30
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It's yours, you make the rules.
Wait... Its ALL mine and I dont get to make the rules...
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:29 PM   #31
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First of all, YES - I did pay for the RV, secondly, YES it was MY money, every penny of it. Third - It is my RV not his, now I did pay half of the first one we purchased together, and I told him he could have the thing because I did not like it, the reason I bought one that I liked and felt comfortable driving. Forth, my dad never drank and drive - my mother used it has a "point to make to me" that she would rather drive with my dad when he was drunk then drive when my DH was driving. She made that comment to me thinking I would take her concerns more serious than she thought I was taking them.

The first RV we purchased together, he took off the rear bumper not once but twice. Once we stopped to fuel and he came 2 inches from taking the pump out when he pulled out. Another time, he jetted across the intersection into the gas station and had a tail spin where the pole holding up the cover of the fueling area almost became the RV blanket. So for me to get upset and angry about his driving is more than warranted. He thinks he knows what he's doing and he don't. He is just being stubborn about it.

Now as for you thinking I am beeing demeaning towards the DH, let me say this, some MEN think they are the greatest drivers and when they get lost, they continue driving around HOPING to find a way out. My DH has the gosh awful habit of driving with the left front tire on the middle line that seperates the two way traffic, if we are on an interstate, depending on the lane he's in - he drives half on the shoulder most of the time. I do not care to replace tires on every vehicle constantly, and when your in a big rig like the 40 foot RV it wouldn't take much to flip it or have the rear land in the ditch. I have offered to send him to Drivers School, I have taken him to the HS parking lots on Sunday's and he simply gets upset and tells me to drive it then. Some men cannot accept help because they don't think they need it for the mere fact they have "driven this way all their life and haven't killed anyone yet" and I am really sorry but after letting him drive my suburban 3 times in a 9 day period, each resulted in a bill for over $1200 each time, he had 3 accidents. He was all alone, the last accident he came home and tossed the keys into the house and stood outside. I already knew what happened, the police called me since the vehicle was registered to me. All three times, a result of him HOGGING the middle line. One of these days he will give up his mucho image and take my advice and sign up for the driving course, otherwise - this wife will take all vehicles and keys away for the safety of all who use the roads in America. He drives like he's driving an old John Deere tractor in the Wheat field, sorry but someone has to take the bull by the horns and put the foot down before there is a fatal accident, so I have put my foot down. Like or not, it's not demeaning it's essential so that no one gets hurt and property doesn't get damaged.

He lucky he has a wife that loves and cares enough to stand up the last one didn't give a crap about him, least this one loves and wants him around for a long time. So I will do whatever I need to do to make sure he's a wee bit safer until he figures out that drivers course isn't so bad after all.
We would be divorced if I talked about, or too, my wife like that... or vise versa..
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:10 PM   #32
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Good for you Kay!! Being in the trucking industry for years I have seen allot of women get in rigs and drive them as good as any man. I taught all three of my kids to drive and the two boys are both professional drivers. My daughter learned how to drive on an old ford 4x4, with a heavy duty clutch and no power steering. She was a natural, even drove my empty log truck. She would have done more but was smart and wen't to school and became a nurse. She now has a 4x4 dodge diesel that she pulls a humungus horse trailer around and has no problem. Her husband a firefighter is scary to ride in a car with. I know exactly what you are saying regarding your DH.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:14 PM   #33
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Thank you slickest1. My DH sat here reading as I was typing the last comment. He told me he understands my point, and he has no problem letting me drive the RV. He told me I was a good driving! Some don't get the danger of the roads, I do as I seen the results all too many time in the ER several years ago. I'm not a perfect driver by any means, but gosh darn it when you're hogging the inside line of the highway you're going to cause an accident at some point in your life and it could be the accident takes your life. I taught all of my girls to drive, AND then put them through Driver's Ed. My youngest daughter moved back home from College in 2008, she came from San Diego to Colorado. She loaded her 26 foot uhaul herself, got a car hauler trailer and put her car on it, hooked it up, threw the cat in the cab and headed home. My DH and I were dating at the time, and we were up on the Mountain and decided to wait in Vail for her as she was about an hour out. When she pulled up at the gas station, my DH watched her get out of the truck, all 5'3'' and he witnessed her feel her tires, check them all and then fuel up. He was speechless for a bit. Then he offered to drive for her to give her a break. She took him up on the offer. We get about 20 miles down the road, he pulls over and he comes back to my suburban and she gets behind the wheel. I asked him whats the matter, he told me "she told me she'd drive because if my mom sees you riding the line she will pull us over and make us park it till we learn to drive" and he told me, I am not going to get her in trouble she wants to get home tonight. LOL. They still laugh about it.
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:10 AM   #34
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i take my hat off to all the ladies that are the primary drivers. if you want to take a chance on teaching your other half. find a really really big parking lot. set out some cones and don't get to frustrated.
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:41 AM   #35
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Women are statistically better drivers than men- that's why insurance rates are so much lower. And it continues to hold true even now that the number of licensed women has surpassed that of licensed men.

Here's a recent study to that effect: Which sex is the better driver?
I think that is part right.
There are specific situations where women do not drive well. Snow, night, rain, rush hour. in a panic situ (when someone pulls out in front of you).
Women tend to slam brakes and close thier eyes. whereas men will pump brakes and steer the vehicle around others if possible.
If there was an actual breakdown of accidents per miles driven I think you could make a case in the other direction. Men drive more miles by far.
I will say this Many good drivers get bored out thier skulls driving and it will appear that they are not paying attention, when in fact they are in thier own lane and have the vehicel under control.
My father and mother are prime examples.
one 69, one 72
Mother has had 4 at fault accidents over the last 40 years and 2 not at fault. (dad blames her driveing on learing in the AZ desert in 1960, nothing to hit)
Father has had Zero. My dad drives quite carefully. Drove a School bus for work his last 18 years of work.
I learned to drive a farm tractor, and trailer at age 10.
At 48 I am a better driver than I was 20 years ago (I have slowed down) but I admit I do get bored on interstates.
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:54 AM   #36
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If something were to happen to me at least I know she can handle our DP and we have actually rehersed an event if I croaked at the wheel. Scarry stuff but necessary we feel.
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I guess what seems demeaning is discussing it in a public forum. Would hope my DW would never go to this effort to embarrass me publicly.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:48 AM   #38
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I know the answer why women have fewer accidents.

Women cause the accidents, the don't have them. Once the accident occurs, they are not involved they just caused it and they drive on. No statistics on that.

Okay, some background. Many years ago I had to travel 40 miles one way on Interstate to my Job. A big "oops" as one day I got a ticket and I accepted differed adjudication. That meant that for 6 months I could not get another moving violation, or else. So I traveled at the then 55 mphy staying in the right hand lane as to not impede traffic. It was so strange as the cars traveling in the same direction were zipping past me. I got curious as to what type of person was traveling the fastes and zipping in and out traffic so they could be first. I started counting and at the 20 mark I stopped. Out of 20 cars that were going the fastest and zipping in and out, 18 were female, and of that 18, 17 were in red cars. So that is my statement of female drivers don't have accidents they just cause them.

Funny thing is that as we traveled down the highway there choice of lanes was not as good as mine and I would catch up to them when the traffic jammed. As I pulled up along side I'd "beep, beep." This would happen several more times and thy would speed off when they could. At one instance there was a women taking a road into "our" city. At that time there were 4 traffic lights as the expressway was being developed. At each of the 4 traffic lights I was able to pull up, go "beep, beep," and when the light changed watch the spin off only to be caught at the next light.

So yes there are some excellent female drivers, but there are also excellent male drivers and statistics can be manipulated in any way that the statistician desires.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:25 AM   #39
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If my spouse ever talked about me like this in public my next post would be in the Solo RVers forum. This goes for both genders !!
This is known as RESPECT and there is a complete lack of it shown here.
The heading should be, EGO'S OUT OF CONTROL
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If my spouse ever talked about me like this in public my next post would be in the Solo RVers forum. This goes for both genders !!
This is known as RESPECT and there is a complete lack of it shown here.
The heading should be, EGO'S OUT OF CONTROL

I couldn't agree more, if I was DH I would be catching a plane and and meeting DW at the other end. It would be too hard sitting that close
To greatness. Or maybe i'd go elsewhere.
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I want you to know that whenever I approach anything or write about anything I first do it with sincerity and also humor . I luv my hubby dearly, he knows what a joker and funny person I Can be, he is so secure in knowing that I would never demean him. I don't want any man to take it this way, reread my first post and focus on the humor.

I bought my own Rv with an extra part time job I took to help us afford it. One reason why I bought it was once I got use to driving it and learned to use everything, my goal was to help others with that which I was blessed with. The second year I had the rv I spent with the permission of my husband ,volunteering for six months while I lived in my rv in a remote forest in New England. I have spent many years since focusing on using this wonderful gift to help others, volunteering at campgrounds, environmental centers and things like habitat.
Some of us are so blessed ,are given a strong will and a since of luv and responsibility to others and to our natural world.
I have been driving big rigs, trailers loaded with boats when I thought sailing and canoeing for a college. So I am not unfamiliar with driving either. I think it is so wonderful for any of us to have the opportunity to have these things,. Yes it is important to learn how to drive safely and feel you are really ready to drive. I always know where I am going, I always go on the roads with my car first to scout the road and get familiar. This is extreme I know, the farthest I have driven my rig is to Pennsylvania, Ohio, northern Maine and Canada. I won't drive to the south although I would luv to try, but I don't know the roads and I am not familiar with the areas. In April I will be driving my car for the first time to Venice, Florida where we will vacation for a month. Maybe the next time I might dare to drive my rig that far. But anywhere I go I will first drive in my car first. So I am not so unique as a woman, I am extra careful but there is nothing wrong with that. I am going to have my husband practice as it is important. My next rig will be a 38 foot three bedroom as I am taking fresh air kids , and international students camping and volunteering with me.


My invitation to you is share your gifts, embrace others with your advantages be safe and think about all these joyful times we are so lucky to have. I am not afraid to say God Bless you all and God Bless our wonderful children who we have lost in this recent shooting.
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Kathy;

I congratulate and admire your driving skills.

Bev and I purchased our first MH in 1992 at Knoxville. When I got half way home I pulled into a rest stop and said Bev I got my 1/2 half way home now you get your 1/2 the rest of the way home. My DW was a farm girl when I married her and she drove most of the farm machinery so I figured she would do well and she did. I drove fuel trucks most of my adult life and I still have my CDL. We both have accident free driving records. I do more driving than she does but she asks to drive often. She is a great help as we get older relieving me when I get tired.

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