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Old 09-06-2012, 07:29 AM   #1
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Some new Internet Scams

Just as a heads up. I've gotten some new internet scams or virus attempts that some of you may not be aware of. I started getting "Delivery Failure" notices on my e-mails. A closer look shows that none of the addresses were ones that I had sent any e-mails to. There is a link that you should not click and just delete the e-mail.

The second one was more than a little unique. Like many people I have a number of different e-mail accounts. In my main e-mail account I find an e-mail that said it was from me. Again, there is a link with it. I didn't remember forwarding anything to myself so I deleted the e-mail. As they used to say on "Hill Street Blues," "Be careful out there!"
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Just as a heads up. I've gotten some new internet scams or virus attempts that some of you may not be aware of. I started getting "Delivery Failure" notices on my e-mails. A closer look shows that none of the addresses were ones that I had sent any e-mails to. There is a link that you should not click and just delete the e-mail.

The second one was more than a little unique. Like many people I have a number of different e-mail accounts. In my main e-mail account I find an e-mail that said it was from me. Again, there is a link with it. I didn't remember forwarding anything to myself so I deleted the e-mail. As they used to say on "Hill Street Blues," "Be careful out there!"
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:56 AM   #3
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If I don't recognize the address or subject, I hit delete. I am not hard to find if they really want me, hey, I am in the phone book!

There is a web site where this man replies to these scams and sends emails for "more information because I am interested", etc and to read the replies he gets should be on TV...so funny, ya can't believe it.

He kept a guy from Nigeria on the hook for two months...a riot for sure.
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:18 PM   #4
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Just recently got one I hadn't seen before. It was sent to me by my brother, and listed his first and last name as the sender. Under the subject line, it said "For Carol". That subject line struck me as a little odd for some reason, even though I am Carol. Looked at it a little closer before opening, and the email address listed after his name was not his. Called him to verify that he didn't sent it. Delete. Have gotten 2 or 3 more from "him" since that time. I just don't understand how people gain anything from these.
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:19 PM   #5
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One that I got today says it was from Mommar Gadaffi's daughter and that I should contact her for some important information. Now I hate to be rude, but old Mommar and I weren't exactly close so I'm not sure why she would single me out for this "important information." I guess I'll just have to forget about that one and wait for the funds to arrive from the UN that they promised me.

The internet is getting really weird with these phishing e-mails. Some of them are just downright bizarre.
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Just as a heads up. I've gotten some new internet scams or virus attempts that some of you may not be aware of. I started getting "Delivery Failure" notices on my e-mails.....
It sounds like your email address/s were hacked by a spammer. You can try changing the passwords for those accounts. Make them complicated and all different. We only have those free gmail accounts now as they're supposedly very hard on hackers. So far, so good.

BTW my very religious Mormon cousin had her account hacked and everyone in her address book started getting spam from her (account), some of it from porn sites. Many were people from her Temple or Church. She was mortified.
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Just recently got one I hadn't seen before. It was sent to me by my brother, and listed his first and last name as the sender. Under the subject line, it said "For Carol". That subject line struck me as a little odd for some reason, even though I am Carol. Looked at it a little closer before opening, and the email address listed after his name was not his. Called him to verify that he didn't sent it. Delete. Have gotten 2 or 3 more from "him" since that time. I just don't understand how people gain anything from these.
They're paid to send spam to millions of email addresses. Others are paid to hack email accounts and send spam to everyone the hacked person's email address book. In some cases, those addresses are used to send out... you get the idea. When that happens a change of password often stops the problem. If not, close THAT email account and get another.
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i got a call today from "microsoft". the heavily-accented guy on the other end said "hello, i am calling from microsoft..." I said "no you're not" and hung up.
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In the old days I had an infection proof E-mail client, Alas, I don't use it any more, but back then I'd tear the envelope apart and go after the spammer. I would notify his up-thread postmaster.

Had one E-mail me "Why did you get me kicked off my ISP" and "I can always get a new ISP".. To this one I repllied.

Most ISP's back then charged a set up fee, then a monthly fee, so changing ISP's was expensive, I wished him many expensive ISP changes.. Never heard from him again.

Today, I do not even have an E-mail client on the computer, I deleted it.. I use Web mail, Just for the heck of it I once tried to download an infected E-mail.. Finally gave up, I hit a good dozen levels of "Are you really really really sure you want to do this?" requestors"

Good way to avoid infection mail.
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It may not be a virus and your email may not have been hacked. However, someone may have spoofed your email address. That is, they send out any type of email with advertisements, or whatever, and "spoof" your email address.

How did they get your email address? Well someone you sent an email to had their account hacked, or their computer compromised (more later on that) and your email was obtained. The sender randomly spoofs an email address from his list and sends out the junk mail (spam) or a scam. Now, feature this. The list he is sending to was acquired from the compromised email account/computer/or virus. Let us just for the sake of this say that one of the addresses was xxx1234@somewher.com. The email goes out but xxx1234@somewher.com no longer exists, or it was typed into the compromised systems email address book (or other means later). What happens? It gets bounced back to the email address that was spoofed. It is the only way that you will know your email was spoofed by having the email "bounced" back to you as undeliverable. After all, you know you didn't send it.

Now, the perpetrator that started all this could care less how many bad email addresses there are in the email that he sends. If it is a scam with a link, many people will click on it even if they know it is a scam - it's in their nature. He can acquire this list by compromising a computer and then with software scan the computer for documents, spreadsheets, pdf files, address books, email, or whatever he wants and he looks for anything with the @ symbol in it. He harvests that and uses it as his email target list. He randomly uses any email in the list as the "From" address. If it is yours and there is an email address that is no good, you get the bounced email.

Also, another way email addresses are harvested is when emails are forwarded, and forwarded and forwarded and the email addresses are visible either in the "To" or "CC" line. Always, always forward email using the BCC line (Blind Carbon Copy) so others cannot see who the list is going to. It's a simple cut and paste from CC to BCC.

Happy trails.
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It may not be a virus and your email may not have been hacked. However, someone may have spoofed your email address. That is, they send out any type of email with advertisements, or whatever, and "spoof" your email address.

How did they get your email address? Well someone you sent an email to had their account hacked, or their computer compromised (more later on that) and your email was obtained. The sender randomly spoofs an email address from his list and sends out the junk mail (spam) or a scam. Now, feature this. The list he is sending to was acquired from the compromised email account/computer/or virus. Let us just for the sake of this say that one of the addresses was xxx1234@somewher.com. The email goes out but xxx1234@somewher.com no longer exists, or it was typed into the compromised systems email address book (or other means later). What happens? It gets bounced back to the email address that was spoofed. It is the only way that you will know your email was spoofed by having the email "bounced" back to you as undeliverable. After all, you know you didn't send it.

Now, the perpetrator that started all this could care less how many bad email addresses there are in the email that he sends. If it is a scam with a link, many people will click on it even if they know it is a scam - it's in their nature. He can acquire this list by compromising a computer and then with software scan the computer for documents, spreadsheets, pdf files, address books, email, or whatever he wants and he looks for anything with the @ symbol in it. He harvests that and uses it as his email target list. He randomly uses any email in the list as the "From" address. If it is yours and there is an email address that is no good, you get the bounced email.

Also, another way email addresses are harvested is when emails are forwarded, and forwarded and forwarded and the email addresses are visible either in the "To" or "CC" line. Always, always forward email using the BCC line (Blind Carbon Copy) so others cannot see who the list is going to. It's a simple cut and paste from CC to BCC.

Happy trails.
Thanks Wayne for some great advice and insight!
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