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Old 06-10-2011, 08:58 PM   #15
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Its not really a choice motorhomes have automatics, 6 speed allisons unless it's a ford. The allison trans works great. Only potential issue is the torque rating, many, particularly cummins isl's are artificially limited to 1050 ft-lbs of torque to stay within the limits of the trans.

That said, my allison 4000trans works great!
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Old 06-11-2011, 12:19 AM   #16
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A lot of drivers today don't know how to shift. They say automatic,automatically.
I've used both, and in hilly snow and ice, I prefer standard. It doesn't pop out of gear into next gear and therefore you don't use up all your brake power. On Allison 5 and 6 gear if your in lower gear going downhill and it reaches change gear speed it goes into that next gear when you don't want it too. I notice I use more brake when I don't want to use a brake. Automatics fine on flat lands
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Old 06-11-2011, 01:01 AM   #17
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A lot of drivers today don't know how to shift. They say automatic,automatically.
I've used both, and in hilly snow and ice, I prefer standard. It doesn't pop out of gear into next gear and therefore you don't use up all your brake power. On Allison 5 and 6 gear if your in lower gear going downhill and it reaches change gear speed it goes into that next gear when you don't want it too. I notice I use more brake when I don't want to use a brake. Automatics fine on flat lands
I find the Allison trans and the exhaust brake on my 2010 Itasca DP an awesome combination. I leave the exhaust brake on all the time and find I hardly ever use the service brakes above 20MPH. "Feathering" the accelerator on downhills allows me to basically "ride" the exhaust brake. Less effort to drive than a manual would be. Unless it's a Porsche 911, I can't get excited about shifting and using a clutch.
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Old 06-11-2011, 05:22 AM   #18
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On ANY purchase you have to consider resale. Manual transmission would kill a lot of potential sales.
Yep, that's a fact ! I think the only pick up truck you can get a manual in now is the Dodge Ram, and most cars don't offer a "stick" anymore either...
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Old 06-11-2011, 10:42 AM   #19
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I retired 13 years ago, why would I want to go back to work. Shifting is work! It requires that you are always aware at what RPM the engine is and more. Automatics and a captians chair are for me!
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Old 06-11-2011, 11:08 AM   #20
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Its not really a choice motorhomes have automatics, 6 speed allisons unless it's a ford. The allison trans works great. Only potential issue is the torque rating, many, particularly cummins isl's are artificially limited to 1050 ft-lbs of torque to stay within the limits of the trans.

That said, my allison 4000trans works great!
Many "Super C's" are built on a Kenworth, Volvo, or Peterbuilt Chassis and have "clutchless 15 speed manual trannys.

Many times I wish I had more than 6 speeds also
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The automatics in class 8 trucks are not real automatics in the way an automobile or motor home is. They are basically a standard truck transmission controlled by a computer, the early ones did have a clutch peddle you used for starting and stopping but the second generation doesn't use a clutch peddle. Many vocational trucks such as garbage trucks and buses do use the same basic Allison that's found in many motor homes. As to the question... Yes I would prefer a nice 13 speed (standard) trans over an automatic. After 30+ years of driving OTR trucks I find my right hand reaching for a nonexistent shifter more times then not .......
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I would guess that anyone that has driven in an urban area rush hour(Chicago for instance) would disavow anyone that even hinted at a manual transmission (for a car too).
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I would guess that anyone that has driven in an urban area rush hour(Chicago for instance) would disavow anyone that even hinted at a manual transmission (for a car too).
Actually, the automatic transmission is more popular in the USA than in the rest of the world...And their traffic issues are even worse than ours here!

Try to find a car in Germany with an automatic......
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I would guess that anyone that has driven in an urban area rush hour(Chicago for instance) would disavow anyone that even hinted at a manual transmission (for a car too).
I did it for years with a tractor trailer, 13 speed direct (no over drive) and never gave it a thought. Ya did what ya had to do..... I'm a little off center and prefer a standard trans to an auto... Oh, and you don't have to use the clutch on the big trucks to shift, only to start and stop, you learn to match engine speed to the road speed just by listening and pick up or drop a gear.
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When I first started with the electric utility after my military commitment I drove a line truck that had either 16 or 18 gears. I also drove a stick shift car when progressed in the company. I can drive any stick shift vehicle but I choose not to. The job I retired from required a lot of driving in the geographic area and I usually put 30,000 + miles a year on a vehicle. I absolutly hated getting stuck in stop & go traffic . I understand that in Europe they have those little coffins with stick shifts and as far as I am concerned they can have them, however with the EPA and greenies we may someday have no choice. Here in the US, I would guess if a stick shift motorhome were offered, it would sit on the dealers lot occupying space for a long time. Sure, we could all learn to drive a manual shift transmission motor home, but why would anyone want to?
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I would guess that anyone that has driven in an urban area rush hour(Chicago for instance) would disavow anyone that even hinted at a manual transmission (for a car too).
I commuted in Los Angeles for 30yrs with stick shifts, never considered it a problem. I would be driving stick shifts now, but the DW may need to drive my car and she don't do stick shifts.

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If you could choose either a automatic or a standard transmission for your motor home. Would you choose a standard ?

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Automatic ?

Why should I shift GEARS, let the Automatic do it for me! I love life.........

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