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Old 01-15-2014, 12:00 PM   #15
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Two answers: If you are considering moving (at least legally moving) and changing your state of residence.. The first responder (SD or TX) got it right.. But also check out the other taxes (income) you may pay there.

IF you live in any of the other 48 states.. The cheapest state to title in is the one on your driver's license.

Here is why I say this: Many have formed Montana LLC's due to Montana's tax laws and registration fee schedule for their Motor home.
And a good number of them have heard the knock on the door and the words "State Treasury Agent" and been handed a bill for way way more than they would have paid if they had done it legally up front.
This is some very good advice!
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Thanks TaxMan... I noticed the O/P says he has property in several states..

Still.. it is the one on the driver's license that counts. Also the one where you live, vote (You do vote right if not please do) and work.
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I have several property's is why I ask
He never stated he had property in several states just several pieces of property. It could all be in one state or several. You can have property in several states and still be domiciled in a different state. Which is why I stated that most RVers go with TX, SD or FL for a domicile.
You can also have your vehicles insured in different states, we have the bike and RV insured in MI and the car in CA. Same insurance company and they said it's not that uncommon to do.
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Thanks all for your replies I was just curious about things I have seen and read far as the properties I own in several states and no I do not full time but what does this have to do with my question! just saying! Seems I have offended some of you I did not aim to go there was just asking a simple question thanks
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Thanks all for your replies I was just curious about things I have seen and read far as the properties I own in several states and no I do not full time but what does this have to do with my question! just saying! Seems I have offended some of you I did not aim to go there was just asking a simple question thanks

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The reason we bring up full timing is that someone who fulltimes has the luxury of basically picking what state they want to call their resident state. With no stick and brick home that one state can claim to be their residence they have the option of picking one that best suits their needs. Hence the reason you see people mention SD, TX, and FL as good places for residency if one fulltimes. States love to do the "Aha, you live in X state because you have a home here! Now you owe all kinds of back taxes!" Fulltimers can avoid that situation.

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Greg,

I lived in Ohio for 22 years, but I had 10 acres of retirement property in Texas. There was no question about it - Ohio was my domicile. I resided (owned a home) and worked there. I voted, had my vehicles registered and insured, was a member of a church, paid taxes, etc. in Ohio. From a taxation standpoint, it would have been advantageous to claim that I was a Texas resident (or that Texas was my domicile), but the fact that I owned property in Texas for which I paid property tax, in and of itself, did not offset the fact that I was a de facto resident of Ohio.

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[QUOTE=RustyJC;1886501]Greg,

I lived in Ohio for 22 years, but I had 10 acres of retirement property in Texas. There was no question about it - Ohio was my domicile. I resided (owned a home) and worked there. I voted, had my vehicles registered and insured, was a member of a church, paid taxes, etc. in Ohio. From a taxation standpoint, it would have been advantageous to claim that I was a Texas resident (or that Texas was my domicile), but the fact that I owned property in Texas for which I paid property tax, in and of itself, did not offset the fact that I was a de facto resident of Ohio.

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I fully agree with you there i have just seen and read some of what i will just call shady stuff . I didnt know well maybe its not shady, its where the question come from. Me scratching my head !
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I fully agree with you there i have just seen and read some of what i will just call shady stuff . I didnt know well maybe its not shady, its where the question come from. Me scratching my head !
Well, there's tax avoidance (legal) and tax evasion (illegal). The Montana LLC or SD/TX domicile approaches can fall under tax avoidance for a full-timer while it would fall under tax evasion for someone like me in the case I cited. I'll leave it to the experts like wnytaxman to sort out which is which.

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Rusty, they have a term for those that practice tax evasion. The term is 3 to 5 and you have a roommate named Bubba who thinks you're rally cute. Sometimes the line between tax evasion and tax avoidance gets blurred but evasion is the actual intent to defraud the government. Avoidance is using the law to reduce one's tax burden legally.

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I just re-read my post. Aren't we saying the same thing?

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I just re-read my post. Aren't we saying the same thing?

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Yes we are but I'm probably getting too caught up in the technicalities! So much of the tax law is interpretation that it gets to be a full time job just trying to understand what someone meant. Every time they try to simplify it they make it worse.
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I would avoid NC, Plates are cheap, but the yearly property tax SUCKS!
I second this post! Moved when we got the first PPT on our new MH. Back to FL.
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