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Old 12-11-2017, 12:52 PM   #1
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Tax attorney

I am looking at semi full timing, and running a business from an RV.

I know the standard answer is to find a tax attorney. There are none in my local area (within and hour). Since I am will be doing most of it on the phone, instead of picking a random name from an ad, I thought I would check here.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a tax attorney that deals with business and RV?
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Old 12-11-2017, 04:07 PM   #2
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You need a good tax accountant and an attorney if you have legal questions or help forming an LLC. Check out naea.org. National Association of Enrolled Agents. We are licensed by the IRS and user friendly.
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You will find it very difficult to find either a tax attorney or a CPA who is well versed in deducting an RV for business. There have been a number of cases where taxpayers have used their RV’s for business and taken the deductions which have been challenged by the IRS. In both of the cases of which I am aware the taxpayers have lost.

One of the cases was an individual who worked from his RV for his home based business. He lost his case because his “office area” was not solely used as an office. The second one was a couple who specialized in selling RV insurance. They also lost. I believe in the second case they lost because they took 100% of the RV expenses as business. A general rule of thumb that we use is “pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered.” It’s okay to be a little piggie but when you get to be a great big hog then you become a target.

Where we have been able to take RV’s as business deductions was as housing for temporary living on jobs. We have a number of clients who worked in the oil and gas fields of PA, OH, and WV. There are no motels where they are working so they would take their fifth wheels and pickups for their housing while on assignment. I should add that we never had the deduction challenged so our ability to take the deduction was based strictly on our interpretation of the law which we believe would stand up under audit.
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Old 12-12-2017, 08:05 AM   #4
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An rv for a tax dodge is almost as bad (and watched almost as closely) as an airplane.

If you can expense a hotel then you can deduct an rv...but only the percentage it's in use for business vs personal. (Keep good records!) If you're telecommuting to a job or running an online business or something from your RV, deducting your RV won't fly. But a good CPA is worth the few bucks a year
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You will find it very difficult to find either a tax attorney or a CPA who is well versed in deducting an RV for business. There have been a number of cases where taxpayers have used their RV’s for business and taken the deductions which have been challenged by the IRS. In both of the cases of which I am aware the taxpayers have lost.

One of the cases was an individual who worked from his RV for his home based business. He lost his case because his “office area” was not solely used as an office. The second one was a couple who specialized in selling RV insurance. They also lost. I believe in the second case they lost because they took 100% of the RV expenses as business. A general rule of thumb that we use is “pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered.” It’s okay to be a little piggie but when you get to be a great big hog then you become a target.

Where we have been able to take RV’s as business deductions was as housing for temporary living on jobs. We have a number of clients who worked in the oil and gas fields of PA, OH, and WV. There are no motels where they are working so they would take their fifth wheels and pickups for their housing while on assignment. I should add that we never had the deduction challenged so our ability to take the deduction was based strictly on our interpretation of the law which we believe would stand up under audit.
It seems you just found your taxman who knows RVs, that is if WNYtaxman is still taking clients.
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I have seen the 2 "Big" cases. I also understand that the law varies greatly and there are few people well versed in it.

Each business is different and I know there are many issues with this, which is why I am looking for professional help.

That is why I came here, to an RV forum to look for recommendations, vs picking a random name and hoping for the best.

I will be sending a PM, but still looking for recommendations if anyone has a trusted person/firm.
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What kind of business?
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What kind of business?
We will be keeping our house, for many reasons, but want to start a travel and photography business. I know it is a semi saturated market, but I am burned out on my "real life" as it is. Even if I make 1/2 the money I do now, but am happy it will be worth it.
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We will be keeping our house, for many reasons, but want to start a travel and photography business. I know it is a semi saturated market, but I am burned out on my "real life" as it is. Even if I make 1/2 the money I do now, but am happy it will be worth it.
I owned a computer store and would travel in my coach to service customers whose agriculture business took them to Yuma every year. My accountant knew exactly what expenses, etc I could write off and it worked out well.

I'd really suggest you get an accountant as the laws vary a lot and vary from year to year.

My Son in Law owns a photography business and does OK with it but he has been in the same area all his life and knows a lot of people and that's important. Word of mouth is your best advertisement.

Good luck on your venture. You never know till you try!
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Just make sure you keep meticulous records of everything. I'll be taking MACRS depreciation in addition to my normal fuel, lodging, meals etc. I run real estate web sites and will be visiting current clients (in addition to gaining new ones) in all parts of the country. Only way to serve them efficiently is with an RV or a personal airplane.
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Tax laws are in flux just now (Translation. A Tax Attorney/expert is a good idea).

But since you are going "Mobile" Why is "Local" an issue For now you can deliver papers fax and or pdr (E-mail) and get replies the same way since you are setting up advice .. He can instruct you on filing procedures where your actual real signature is needed. (not a fax copy).

I'fe one a lot of business this way.
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This is a little off topic....but check your insurance policy. Both companies that I have used for my RV insurance exclude coverage if your RV is used for business. If you are getting deductions for running a business then I think it would be hard to argue against them not paying any claims that might arise.
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