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Old 04-19-2019, 11:47 AM   #1
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This is what you get...

... when your state legalizes marijuana.
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Apparently Illinois hasn't yet.

I had a long conversation with a Walmart security guard about a year ago. His job was to run off truckers and RVers as soon as they even tried to park much less stay overnight.
He said that as soon as Colorado legalized recreational marijuana the metro Denver area WMs saw a huge increase in homeless people with plates from other states camped out in their parking lots. They apparently didn't take into account that employers weren't anxious to hire stoners with no local address so they ended up in WM parking lots.
The results were lots of drugs, lots of drinking, lots of fights, lots of shoplifting and lots of trash. And that is a major reason almost every Walmart along the Front Range of Colorado prohibits overnight parking.
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Bet those 'No Overnight' signs have a 'city ordinance' posted.


So it would be the towns/cities that have prohibited overnight parking vs Walmarts




As for pot smoking.......right up there with drinking alcohol, prescription drugs
ALL can and ARE abused
Prohibition didn't work ....war on drugs doesn't work....legislation of morality will not work.
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Bet those 'No Overnight' signs have a 'city ordinance' posted.


So it would be the towns/cities that have prohibited overnight parking vs Walmarts




As for pot smoking.......right up there with drinking alcohol, prescription drugs
ALL can and ARE abused
Prohibition didn't work ....war on drugs doesn't work....legislation of morality will not work.
Parking at Wally World around here is forbidden! City ordinance usually the reason. Don't even try. "Knock, knock, knock...anyone up? Time to move on"
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Colorado has had it's share of nut jobs and homeless people long before pot was legalized. We legalized it here in Washington the same time as Colorado and there is almost no difference. We never smell it, it is not any harder or easier to buy, there just is not the trouble people feared it would bring.

My father is a retired physician who believed all the "gateway drug" talk etc. Until he had a need for daily pain relief. He was amazed that a couple licks of a lollipop would work almost instantly, last for a couple hours and had none of the side effects of opiates nor the addiction issues. Time to change our views on pot, at least for medical purposes.
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Here in California whenever I stop for gas at least 1 driver will get out of their car in a cloud of pot smoke. They seem to be oblivious to the fact that it is driving under the influence!
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Colorado has had it's share of nut jobs and homeless people long before pot was legalized. We legalized it here in Washington the same time as Colorado and there is almost no difference. We never smell it, it is not any harder or easier to buy, there just is not the trouble people feared it would bring.
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My father is a retired physician who believed all the "gateway drug" talk etc. Until he had a need for daily pain relief. He was amazed that a couple licks of a lollipop would work almost instantly, last for a couple hours and had none of the side effects of opiates nor the addiction issues. Time to change our views on pot, at least for medical purposes.
DW and I are in the process of changing our views. She suffers from near constant pain from arthritis and bursitis in her hips and I have arthritis in my shoulders. After not having ever touched any pot in our lives we tried some CBD edibles a few weeks ago with no noticeable results. After some research I legally purchased a salve whose active ingredients are 50% CBD oil from the hemp plant and 50% THC from the cannabis plant.
It worked very well to ease my DW's pain and to a much lesser extent to ease my pain. It's effect on me is similar to two 200mg Ibuprofen tablets.
The salve is expensive and out of pocket. Our main problem is how to obtain refills without having to return to Colorado.
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Yeah, Seattle has a real issue with homeless population but not sure it's tied to the legalization of the weed....
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Yeah, Seattle has a real issue with homeless population but not sure it's tied to the legalization of the weed....
I spent several months in training in Seattle in the summer of 1998 IIRC. I was really disappointed in what appeared to be the dregs of society l saw almost everywhere in the city. The panhandlers were uncouth, unkempt, persistent and aggressive. The downtown Denver area was a much nicer and appeared to me a much safer place to visit.
IMHO, Seattle is a dump placed in a beautiful natural setting.
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By chance was this the security guard? Was there any mention of a green step van?

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... when your state legalizes marijuana.
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Apparently Illinois hasn't yet.

I had a long conversation with a Walmart security guard about a year ago. His job was to run off truckers and RVers as soon as they even tried to park much less stay overnight.
He said that as soon as Colorado legalized recreational marijuana the metro Denver area WMs saw a huge increase in homeless people with plates from other states camped out in their parking lots. They apparently didn't take into account that employers weren't anxious to hire stoners with no local address so they ended up in WM parking lots.
The results were lots of drugs, lots of drinking, lots of fights, lots of shoplifting and lots of trash. And that is a major reason almost every Walmart along the Front Range of Colorado prohibits overnight parking.
So what is your Point ? Don't park at Walmart ? Don't Travel to CO or anywhere else ?
I'm 68 and If I could Smoke Pot I think I would- just to sleep well at night !
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Thanks for posting that Mobius. It gives context to what I was observing in Seattle.
Denver is coming to a condition that Seattle has been experiencing for years. On May 9, 2019 Denverites will be voting on Initiative 300, an ordinance placed on the ballot by activists for the homeless. It would over turn Denver's "urban camping ban" and allow anyone to live on any public property including streets in a legally parked vehicle, sidewalks and parks.
While viewing the Seattle video you posted I saw a proposed approach to a solution, or at least a mitigation, to the homeless problem. I hope Denver doesn't follow the path proven to be a disaster by Seattle.
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