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Time has have changed things
05-06-2011, 08:22 AM
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There was a time when you left you home you didn't lock the doors.
The thought was that maybe your neighbor may need something.
Neighbors looked out for each other.
That was then:
This is now:
Lock your doors
Pull the blinds
Kids don't go out and play unless parents are out watching them.
You don't know who your neighbors are: most move every 3 to 5 years.
Pull your garage doors down even when your home. (I just had my leaf blower stolen in broad daylight when I forgot to put my garage door down).
Is this a sign of the times? or it just me?
I live in a middle class neighborhood (at least I think I do) home sell for 175,00 to 300,00.
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05-06-2011, 08:48 AM
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I do believe it is the sign of the times. You didn't have people back then that would mug their own Grand Mother to buy some crack.
Just yesterday in a close larger city, a man pulled his car over and was having a heart attack. Instead of being helped, he was drug out of his car, robbed and left to die. The kid was caught later and was only 17 years old. Scary stuff.
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05-06-2011, 08:57 AM
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Community Administrator
Newmar Owners Club
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Yep, times are a changin. Just heard on the news about thiefs steeling parking space stops, they're concrete and weigh 250 lbs. and cost $25. The owner can't understand what value they would have to the thief. I think the economy has a lot to do with it. Some people down on their luck will steal anything of value which is why we hear of people being electrocuted for stealing electrical wire still in use.
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05-06-2011, 10:37 AM
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Ford Super Duty Owner Fleetwood Owners Club Pond Piggies Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RJay
..Some people down on their luck will steal anything of value ...
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The times are gone when respect for others is taught. Very sad.
The lowest of the low are the thieves that steal the brass urns from cemeteries. They get $$ for it at scrap yards. That's happening here. I don't care how down on luck they are, that's just despicable & disrespectful.
Lori-
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05-06-2011, 02:14 PM
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When I was young (I am 70) it was understood that one does not do things that harm others. You respect others and their property. If you tripped over your own feet while not on your own property it is your fault and no one else's.
People have no respect for them selves (tattos, piercings and drug use) much less for others. People take no responsibility for their own actions. Honesty is not taught with the emphasis it once was if it is taught at all. Most children learn by example, need I say more?
If I talked to my parents the way I hear children talking to theirs now days I would have my head on backwards with my mouth full of soap. No it was not child abuse it was being taught respect. I also learned what the seat of my pants was for besides sitting down. My friends parents were given spanking privliges if I did not behave. I knew better than to test that one.
In this day of so called enlightenment, I think we are going backward instead of foreward.
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05-07-2011, 06:06 AM
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My latest up date:
credit card got hacked;
$700.00 charged before I could get it canceled.
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05-07-2011, 06:40 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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I read about that world in the newspapers, see it on the TV news...
Guess we're lucky though, cuase I don't see it up close and personal.
We know our neighbors, watch out for them, and they watch out for us.
We've watched a damned good group of kids grow up over the last decade too.
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05-07-2011, 08:29 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club
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Location: Granite Falls, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NLOVNIT
The times are gone when respect for others is taught. Very sad.
The lowest of the low are the thieves that steal the brass urns from cemeteries. They get $$ for it at scrap yards. That's happening here. I don't care how down on luck they are, that's just despicable & disrespectful.
Lori-
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Same thing happened here Lori. The thieves stole over 200 of them and sold them all to the same ''scrap dealer'' for 8 dollars each. I understand that one of the employees at the scrap yard became suspicious and called the law and they asked the ''owner'' where the guys got so many bronze flower vases. He said he didn't know and didn't care and it was not his ''business'' to ask questions and that he was in the scrap metal business, not law enforcement. The cops finally caught the two punks but could not prosecute them for anything but a mistomener (sp) because of the individual value of the vases and each offense was handled as a ''individual crime''. They got off with time served while under arrest.
Real shame....
One of the vases came off my wife Linda's Grave.
I heard that some time later the cops were called back to the ''scrap yard office'' to investigate about 60 holes (two mags) fired from AK47 shot into the office and about that many shot fired into his pick up truck he left at the junk yard over the weekend.
Real shame.
The ''shooter'' was never found........
Someone told me that the two punks left the state after they found a note and a bullet casing taped to their front door. The note said ''YOU ARE NEXT''... the bullet casing was from an AK47 ...
Mind you, all this is here say and I have no direct knowledge of this incident....
I understand the ''scrap yard owner'' will not even look at a bronze flower vase now or even buy one.
God bless our troops ....
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05-07-2011, 10:00 AM
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I'm not sure when it all began (probably the 60s) but the sense of "entitlement" to all that is good... and the feeling that one is a "victim" of an unjust society has sure helped create this environment.
We don't keep score in little league games anymore and every kid gets a trophy just for showing up. Kind of sets the expectations early that hard work is not required to be a "winner" and I think this has done our children an injustice.
Rick
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Right on
05-07-2011, 10:39 AM
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Newmar Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Rick, you are right on. "Things" are giving away way too easy. Trips during Sping Break what is that? During my time: Go and work, so you have some money for later on.
Just yesterday, we left around the corner for a few things and left the house key in the door (DW forgot). No big deal, we live in a Gated Community. We know our neighbours.
More and more young women and young men show you the good finger, because we drive the speedlimit 
You should even watch your dogs when outside in your own yard, so they don't get stolen. We do not want to live outside the gate anymore 
It is not safe anymore. A shame.
TW
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05-07-2011, 01:20 PM
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Our jails are overfull. So convict them in court and sentence them to the streets to practice their skills even more. Those serving time for 20-30 years, your sentences will be reduced to 20-30 weeks because we see that your not committing crime in jail--those with mental ills, its not illegal for you to commit crimes because you know not what you do, so without mandatory treatment time, your free to the streets too. No threat of punishments. I don't understand the problem I guess.
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05-07-2011, 02:33 PM
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Newmar Owners Club
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You have only to look at the Japanese people who are enduring the recent disaster to see honor and respect. There, those words are not spoken they are practiced. Isn't it ironic that a people we once thought of as uncivilized and barbaric(Pearl Harbor) is now an example to us on civilized behavior.
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Discovery is seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought.
If you want to see what man made go East; if you want to see what God made go West.
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05-07-2011, 03:03 PM
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Gulf Streamers Club
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this might be an over simplification but population explosion is a constant factor from back then to today. from 1960 to 1997 we go from 3 billion people to 6 billion, don't know what it is now but i expect will be double again soon to 12 billion.
Too many people competing for too few resources may contribute to moral decline.
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05-07-2011, 03:24 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Too many people competing for too few resources may contribute to moral decline.
Scary, but i think true.
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