Go Back   iRV2 Forums > iRV2.com COMMUNITY FORUMS > Just Conversation
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-31-2011, 04:24 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 66
U.S. Warns Mexico

U.S. warns Mexican cartels on cross-border violence

By Alejandro Martinez-Cabrera

EL PASO, Texas (Reuters) Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on Monday warned Mexico's drug cartels that any attempt to bring their violent tactics across the border would produce a powerful reaction.

The Obama administration has been under intense pressure to beef up security along the southwest border to prevent spillover from raging drug cartel violence in Mexico as well as to stem an influx of illegal immigrants.

"So today I say to the cartels: Don't even think about bringing your violence and tactics across this border," Napolitano told an audience at the University of Texas at El Paso.
[ For complete coverage of politics and policy, go to Yahoo! Politics ]

"You will be met by an overwhelming response. And we're going to continue to work with our partners in Mexico to dismantle and defeat you," she said.

Napolitano also argued that while there are deep concerns about the violence by the cartels, those who describe the U.S.-Mexico border as overrun with violence and out of control were off the mark.

"This statement -- often made only to score cheap political points -- is just plain wrong," she said.

More than 34,000 people in Mexico have been killed in drug-related violence since President Felipe Calderon deployed thousands of army troops and federal police to crush cartels warring for lucrative trafficking routes to the United States after he took office in late 2006.

More than 15,000 people were killed in 2010 alone. El Paso recorded a handful of murders last year, while neighboring Ciudad Juarez in Mexico had 3,000.

"Let's stick with the facts and numbers when we talk about where we are at the southwest border," she said. "And we've matched the decreases in apprehensions (of illegal immigrants) with increases in seizures of cash, drugs, and weapons."

PROTEST, SETBACKS

Approximately 20 protesters gathered outside the auditorium where Napolitano spoke, waving banners criticizing what they called the increased militarization of the border.

President Barack Obama ordered some 1,200 National Guard troops to the southwest border last year, and also signed a $600 million bill to fund 1,500 new Border Patrol agents, customs inspectors and law enforcement officials.

Napolitano said the administration had also strengthened its partnership with Mexico as well as state, local and tribal authorities on the nearly 2,000-mile-(3,200 km-) long border.

However, border enforcement efforts have faced setbacks. Earlier this month, Napolitano pulled the plug on a troubled "virtual fence" project meant to better guard stretches of the international boundary.

The project, begun in 2006 and run by Boeing Co at a cost of about $1 billion, was designed to use video cameras, radar, sensors and other technologies to catch illegal immigrants and smugglers trying to cross the porous border.

"The program was consistently over budget, behind schedule, and simply not delivering the return on investment needed to justify it," she said. It is being replaced with existing, proven technologies.

(Reporting by Alejandro Martinez-Cabrera in El Paso; Writing by Jeremy Pelofsky in Washington and Tim Gaynor in Phoenix, Editing by Eric Walsh)


rops
__________________

__________________
rops is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 01-31-2011, 07:43 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Gary - K7GLD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,696
Quote:
More than 34,000 people in Mexico have been killed in drug-related violence since President Felipe Calderon deployed thousands of army troops and federal police to crush cartels warring for lucrative trafficking routes to the United States after he took office in late 2006.

More than 15,000 people were killed in 2010 alone. El Paso recorded a handful of murders last year, while neighboring Ciudad Juarez in Mexico had 3,000.

SO, our Homeland security head sez that 34,000 killed in drug related violence in Mexico is "no big deal" eh?

LESSEE now - how does that number compare to all US troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan so far - [administrator edit]?
__________________

__________________
John Day....|'88 Winnebago Super Chief 27ft. Class A
Eastern .....|'88 KIT model 240 24 ft. 5er
Oregon ......|'02 Dodge/Cummins 2500 Quad Cab
Gary - K7GLD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2011, 07:47 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Jayco Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,904
Janet and Hillary need more nasty adjectives to hurl at these icky people. We are in sooo much trouble. Uffda!!!
__________________
DonavonP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2011, 08:09 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Abnmarine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Colorado
Posts: 702
I'm glad she told them this. I feel a lot safer now.
__________________
2016 Dodge Ram 2500 Laramie 6.7 CTD, 45 gallon gravity tank, Cooper A/T3's, Bilstiens
2012 Arctic Fox 22H 300 watt Solar, Morningstar TS-45, 460 AH batteries, Xantrax 1000 watt PSW
Abnmarine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2011, 08:18 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Gary - K7GLD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,696
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abnmarine View Post
I'm glad she told them this. I feel a lot safer now.

YUP - bet they're all shaking in their boots now...
__________________
John Day....|'88 Winnebago Super Chief 27ft. Class A
Eastern .....|'88 KIT model 240 24 ft. 5er
Oregon ......|'02 Dodge/Cummins 2500 Quad Cab
Gary - K7GLD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2011, 08:27 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Auburn, CA, Havasu, AZ & Mulege, BCS
Posts: 5,217
The problem of violence in Mexico is almost exclusively confined to the borders, at least insofar as Baja is concerned. If you want a really nice relaxing getaway, cross at Tijuana, don't stop till you are south of Ensenada, and keep heading down. Except for minor pilferage (which is always an issue, even in the states), there is practically zero crime in lower Baja.

Tijuana has its warring factions of "narcotraficantes" as they are lovingly known. I asked a Mexican I met, who deals w/declared & legal imports to MX across the TJ & Otay Mesa crossings, about the violence. He said, "Yeah, its bad, maybe only 1-3 dead bodies each morning, but maybe 10." Then he hastened to add, "Of course its only the people who need to be killed. What I mean is, it is only the drug runners."

Ensenada has small amount of spill-over from TJ, but mostly its life as usual there.

Juarez is a different deal from what I hear, and there are innocent bystanders getting killed. And there have been some brazen robberies of vehicles on the highway to resort areas along the Sea of Cortez. Mainland MX gets lots of scary news coverage. The violence problem there won't end soon, and more is the pity as they can sure use our tourist dinero.
__________________
Baja-tested '08 2-slide 36'
Alpine: The Ultimate DIY'er Project
EngineerMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2011, 12:30 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 524
I would sleep well in Mexico knowing a cartel is just around the corner to blast my RV and the local Police. I need the protection of Napolitano to spread the fear to the cartel. They will listen to her I am sure.
__________________
Wayne MD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2011, 07:19 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
Brigadoon's Avatar
 
Newmar Owners Club
Coastal Campers
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: currently in North Georgia
Posts: 1,068
I suppose if you judge the situation by the body count on each side of the border, things are just hunky-dory on this side of the border. However, that is far from the whole story.
__________________
Terry
'05 Dutch Star 4015, '16 Rubicon OlllllO, & HD Ultra ElectraGlide, NKK14278L
Brigadoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2011, 08:09 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 251
Put TSA on the Border. Then we will be safe!
__________________
jablair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2011, 11:25 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
hamguy's Avatar
 
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Mesa, AZ USA
Posts: 1,806
Quote:
Originally Posted by rops View Post
U.S. warns Mexican cartels on cross-border violence

By Alejandro Martinez-Cabrera

EL PASO, Texas (Reuters) Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on Monday warned Mexico's drug cartels that any attempt to bring their violent tactics across the border would produce a powerful reaction.

The Obama administration has been under intense pressure to beef up security along the southwest border to prevent spillover from raging drug cartel violence in Mexico as well as to stem an influx of illegal immigrants.

"So today I say to the cartels: Don't even think about bringing your violence and tactics across this border," Napolitano told an audience at the University of Texas at El Paso.
[ For complete coverage of politics and policy, go to Yahoo! Politics ]

"You will be met by an overwhelming response. And we're going to continue to work with our partners in Mexico to dismantle and defeat you," she said.

Napolitano also argued that while there are deep concerns about the violence by the cartels, those who describe the U.S.-Mexico border as overrun with violence and out of control were off the mark.

"This statement -- often made only to score cheap political points -- is just plain wrong," she said.

More than 34,000 people in Mexico have been killed in drug-related violence since President Felipe Calderon deployed thousands of army troops and federal police to crush cartels warring for lucrative trafficking routes to the United States after he took office in late 2006.

More than 15,000 people were killed in 2010 alone. El Paso recorded a handful of murders last year, while neighboring Ciudad Juarez in Mexico had 3,000.

"Let's stick with the facts and numbers when we talk about where we are at the southwest border," she said. "And we've matched the decreases in apprehensions (of illegal immigrants) with increases in seizures of cash, drugs, and weapons."

PROTEST, SETBACKS

Approximately 20 protesters gathered outside the auditorium where Napolitano spoke, waving banners criticizing what they called the increased militarization of the border.

President Barack Obama ordered some 1,200 National Guard troops to the southwest border last year, and also signed a $600 million bill to fund 1,500 new Border Patrol agents, customs inspectors and law enforcement officials.

Napolitano said the administration had also strengthened its partnership with Mexico as well as state, local and tribal authorities on the nearly 2,000-mile-(3,200 km-) long border.

However, border enforcement efforts have faced setbacks. Earlier this month, Napolitano pulled the plug on a troubled "virtual fence" project meant to better guard stretches of the international boundary.

The project, begun in 2006 and run by Boeing Co at a cost of about $1 billion, was designed to use video cameras, radar, sensors and other technologies to catch illegal immigrants and smugglers trying to cross the porous border.

"The program was consistently over budget, behind schedule, and simply not delivering the return on investment needed to justify it," she said. It is being replaced with existing, proven technologies.

(Reporting by Alejandro Martinez-Cabrera in El Paso; Writing by Jeremy Pelofsky in Washington and Tim Gaynor in Phoenix, Editing by Eric Walsh)


rops
And their reply is -

bwahahahahahahahahah
bwahahahahahahahahah
bwahahahahahahahahah
bwahahahahahahahahah
bwahahahahahahahahah
bwahahahahahahahahah
bwahahahahahahahahah

Incompetano is soooooooo weak and as Artie Johnson would say, "ssstupid"
__________________
Wretched excess is just barely enough.

2002 Itasca Suncruiser - WH Chassis - 35U - 2006 Jeep Liberty
hamguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2011, 01:32 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
FDchief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 563
Quote:
Originally Posted by jablair View Post
Put TSA on the Border. Then we will be safe!
They are too busy patting down senior citizens! Besides, now that the cartels know that we mean business they will be turning in their guns! I think I will camp north of the Border
__________________

Greg & Lynn (Full-Timing)
2011 Phaeton 42 QBH / Spartan Chassis
2003 Jeep GC Overland in Tow
FDchief is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2011, 02:16 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Glenn and Kathy's Avatar
 
National RV Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: May 2000
Location: California Central Coast
Posts: 1,200
Yeh, and Janet was never aware there were Border problems when she was our gubner neither.

Glenn
__________________
2006 Sea Breeze LX 8341 on a Workhorse W22 Chassis with 22.5 Alcoa Alum wheels,
2011 Chevy Colorado 4X4 with Ready Brake
Glenn and Kathy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2011, 09:20 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
historyljc's Avatar
 
Tiffin Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Pensacola, Florida
Posts: 5,173
For all those leery of traveling down to Mexico to spend your tourist dollars, let me welcome you to the Florida, Alabama, Mississippi Gulf coast. Come on down, eat a lot of seafood, gamble in the casinos (Mississippi), do some charter fishing and stay in our beautiful camprounds. English still spoken here. OK, a little "Red Neck" helps.
__________________
Travel well, travel safe,
Jim
2006 Tiffin Phaeton - 2011 Cadillac SRX
historyljc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2011, 09:28 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
bluepill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pensacola, FL
Posts: 2,247
Quote:
Originally Posted by historyljc View Post
For all those leery of traveling down to Mexico to spend your tourist dollars, let me welcome you to the Florida, Alabama, Mississippi Gulf coast. Come on down, eat a lot of seafood, gamble in the casinos (Mississippi), do some charter fishing and stay in our beautiful camprounds. English still spoken here. OK, a little "Red Neck" helps.

+1 - Stimulate the US economy.
__________________

__________________
2008 Itasca Meridian 37H & 2015 Flagstaff T12RBST
2011 & 2012 Len & Pat's "One lap of America"
27K miles & 41 states in 13 months - Woo Woo
Yellowstone Lake 6-1-2012
bluepill is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mexico Gang Terror rops Just Conversation 29 01-29-2011 04:58 PM
Canadians wanting Verizon Broadband for travel in U.S? rick_d Technology: Internet, TV, Satellite, Cell Phones, etc. 2 09-07-2009 04:16 PM
China's strategic threat to U.S. Jayco1 Just Conversation 1 03-02-2007 05:09 AM
US State Dept. renews travel warning to Mexico Two Bit iRV2.com General Discussion 1 07-28-2005 08:19 AM
For those going into Mexico Two Bit iRV2.com General Discussion 3 02-01-2005 06:50 PM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.