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Old 03-28-2007, 09:30 AM   #1
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President Bush displaces American truckers out of their jobs within 45 days with his Mexican trucker pilot program. Bush signed a bill that allows thousands of substandard 18 wheeler long haul rigs from Mexico onto America's Interstate system. Mexican drivers, who can't read, speak or understand English--receive full access to America's highways.

Bush places all American motorists at risk with Mexican drivers with average 6th grade educations from a Third World country, gross incompetence and habitually drunk Mexican drivers as well as their unsafe trucks and trailers. Not only will American truckers lose their jobs, but American motorists become collateral damage in accidents guaranteed to occur.

Bush's action mandates American truckers' jobs vanishing with a new version of: "Mexican drivers do the jobs that American truckers won't do."¯

First, the independent haulers will see their loads undercut by Mexican drivers. Later, Mexican drivers will chip away at produce haulers. Given enough time, Wal-Mart, Roadway, Consolidated and Home Depot will hire Mexican drivers at half the wages of American truckers. Mexican truckers, ever looking for black market loads of people, drugs and products, will create new smuggling routes across the USA.

Given enough time, Bush will see to it that American trucking follows the auto industry, construction, drywall, painting, landscape and fast food industry"”into the toilet.

Therefore, truckers from four border states"”Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California--and beyond may participate in a trucker boycott April 23, 24, 25, 2007. Those truckers that want to stop this latest insult to America's working class by this president may shut their rigs down for three days. Time to show Bush that truckers can paralyze this country in a matter of days if he continues on his national suicide mission of killing American truckers' jobs. Additionally, truckers may surround all 48 state capitals with their rigs and park them! Mr. Bush, if you're going to spit on American truckers, we'll see who can spit into the next pasture!

Why do I know? I trucked for 21 summers and three solid years for United Van Lines, Consolidated and Single Source. I know the ultimate power of truckers. We deliver everything that Americans need on a daily basis: food, gas, lumber, cars, water, i.e., EVERYTHING! Mr. Bush, you won't be able to wipe your butt without us delivering the Charmins!

As Wanda Piety at SaveAmericaFund.com said, "When Bush allows the Mexican truckers into the U.S., truckers will lose their futures, and it will seal the tragic fate of this country as we lose our sovereignty, Constitution and ultimately our governing body, liberties and freedoms."¯

"Truck Out" points:

1. Bush is planning, in less than 45 days, to allow 17,000 or more Mexican trucks and truckers into our country with no checks and balances in place. Rigs will be allowed in with no weight regulations, no load restrictions (as their loads will not be under the same security scrutiny that our truckers' loads have to comply to, which opens the door to more drugs, terrorists, weapons and human smuggling), some with no insurance in place, some truckers with no drivers licenses and criminal driving records, no background checks, and trucks that are not regulated to adhere to our strict safety regulations.

2. Once again the illegals will be given special treatment by our government, above that of our legal American citizens and legal immigrants, which allows them to break laws in our country that our truckers cannot get away with or their licenses would be pulled, their trucks impounded, and potentially criminally charged.

3. These truckers can haul for far less per load than our own truckers and will take their jobs. This is not a threat; it has been in the planning stages for several years now. American truckers will lose their jobs.

4. This constitutes a complete breakdown of the current trucking laws and regulations that govern our teamster truckers and Independent trucking organizations. This will work to destroy the truckers livelihoods and futures, as for many, this is all they have ever done.

5. We cannot allow this to happen, not even to test it. NAFTA is a failed international policy that has backfired on the U.S., and is driving our country into total ruin.

6. We invite our truckers to participate in a national "Truck Out" Boycott, on the 23-25 of April, to coincide with the www.FairUS.org rally planned in Washington DC, the "Put Their Feet to the Fire Press Conference Rally."¯

7. The point is to shut all trucking down and surround every capital in every state with a convoy of trucks, cars and motorcycles to protest the corrupt plans our government has to destroy our trucking industry, and our nation. This will, in turn, shut all industry dependent on the truckers down, as many of these industries employee illegals. This will show our government that we do have power and will exercise it, and will not tolerate their refusal to do the will of the legal American citizens and immigrants in this country. We are demanding NO amnesty for illegal aliens, an end to the socialist/fascist corruption in our government by our elected officials who refuse to uphold our laws, our Constitution, their oaths of office, and the people who voted them into office. We are their bosses and it's time for them to stop ignoring us, blatantly breaking our laws, and twisting the truth to suit their own nefarious agendas.
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By Frosty Wooldridge
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President Bush displaces American truckers out of their jobs within 45 days with his Mexican trucker pilot program. Bush signed a bill that allows thousands of substandard 18 wheeler long haul rigs from Mexico onto America's Interstate system. Mexican drivers, who can't read, speak or understand English--receive full access to America's highways.

Bush places all American motorists at risk with Mexican drivers with average 6th grade educations from a Third World country, gross incompetence and habitually drunk Mexican drivers as well as their unsafe trucks and trailers. Not only will American truckers lose their jobs, but American motorists become collateral damage in accidents guaranteed to occur.

Bush's action mandates American truckers' jobs vanishing with a new version of: "Mexican drivers do the jobs that American truckers won't do."¯

First, the independent haulers will see their loads undercut by Mexican drivers. Later, Mexican drivers will chip away at produce haulers. Given enough time, Wal-Mart, Roadway, Consolidated and Home Depot will hire Mexican drivers at half the wages of American truckers. Mexican truckers, ever looking for black market loads of people, drugs and products, will create new smuggling routes across the USA.

Given enough time, Bush will see to it that American trucking follows the auto industry, construction, drywall, painting, landscape and fast food industry"”into the toilet.

Therefore, truckers from four border states"”Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California--and beyond may participate in a trucker boycott April 23, 24, 25, 2007. Those truckers that want to stop this latest insult to America's working class by this president may shut their rigs down for three days. Time to show Bush that truckers can paralyze this country in a matter of days if he continues on his national suicide mission of killing American truckers' jobs. Additionally, truckers may surround all 48 state capitals with their rigs and park them! Mr. Bush, if you're going to spit on American truckers, we'll see who can spit into the next pasture!

Why do I know? I trucked for 21 summers and three solid years for United Van Lines, Consolidated and Single Source. I know the ultimate power of truckers. We deliver everything that Americans need on a daily basis: food, gas, lumber, cars, water, i.e., EVERYTHING! Mr. Bush, you won't be able to wipe your butt without us delivering the Charmins!

As Wanda Piety at SaveAmericaFund.com said, "When Bush allows the Mexican truckers into the U.S., truckers will lose their futures, and it will seal the tragic fate of this country as we lose our sovereignty, Constitution and ultimately our governing body, liberties and freedoms."¯

"Truck Out" points:

1. Bush is planning, in less than 45 days, to allow 17,000 or more Mexican trucks and truckers into our country with no checks and balances in place. Rigs will be allowed in with no weight regulations, no load restrictions (as their loads will not be under the same security scrutiny that our truckers' loads have to comply to, which opens the door to more drugs, terrorists, weapons and human smuggling), some with no insurance in place, some truckers with no drivers licenses and criminal driving records, no background checks, and trucks that are not regulated to adhere to our strict safety regulations.

2. Once again the illegals will be given special treatment by our government, above that of our legal American citizens and legal immigrants, which allows them to break laws in our country that our truckers cannot get away with or their licenses would be pulled, their trucks impounded, and potentially criminally charged.

3. These truckers can haul for far less per load than our own truckers and will take their jobs. This is not a threat; it has been in the planning stages for several years now. American truckers will lose their jobs.

4. This constitutes a complete breakdown of the current trucking laws and regulations that govern our teamster truckers and Independent trucking organizations. This will work to destroy the truckers livelihoods and futures, as for many, this is all they have ever done.

5. We cannot allow this to happen, not even to test it. NAFTA is a failed international policy that has backfired on the U.S., and is driving our country into total ruin.

6. We invite our truckers to participate in a national "Truck Out" Boycott, on the 23-25 of April, to coincide with the www.FairUS.org rally planned in Washington DC, the "Put Their Feet to the Fire Press Conference Rally."¯

7. The point is to shut all trucking down and surround every capital in every state with a convoy of trucks, cars and motorcycles to protest the corrupt plans our government has to destroy our trucking industry, and our nation. This will, in turn, shut all industry dependent on the truckers down, as many of these industries employee illegals. This will show our government that we do have power and will exercise it, and will not tolerate their refusal to do the will of the legal American citizens and immigrants in this country. We are demanding NO amnesty for illegal aliens, an end to the socialist/fascist corruption in our government by our elected officials who refuse to uphold our laws, our Constitution, their oaths of office, and the people who voted them into office. We are their bosses and it's time for them to stop ignoring us, blatantly breaking our laws, and twisting the truth to suit their own nefarious agendas.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:49 AM   #3
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Instead of congress taking care of this they are worried about Gonzales the AG. That is all I have heard for the last 2 weeks. They will avoid all issues where a hard stance needs to be taken. Cannot offend anyone, cannot speak their minds or they will be pounced on by the opposition and called racist, no american issues, only glogal issues like warming which only the US will suffer the consquences, cannot come up with alt fuels only tax breaks. Unsafe trucks, you bet, but they will be rolling as long as our elected parties go by what the latest poll says. I wish the truckers good will but I doubt they will get what they want.
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:19 AM   #4
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Let's look back a little farther:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">In February 2001, a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) tribunal ruled that the U.S. has been violating the terms of NAFTA because it has limited access of Mexican trucks to a 20-mile commercial zone along the border. NAFTA, which took effect in 1994, required the U.S. to allow Mexican trucks access to all border-state roads starting in 1995, and to drive anywhere in the country by January 2000. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
So, how was NAFTA ratified?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The three-nation NAFTA was signed on 17 December 1992, pending its ratification by the legislatures of the three countries. There was considerable opposition in all three countries, but in the United States it was able to secure passage after Bill Clinton made its passage a major legislative initiative in 1993. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My point being, both political parties have supported NAFTA and worked to get it passed. So, why the attempt to politicize it now??

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What send chills down my back is that there are people who actually believe this hate mongering Rosie O'Donnell type stuff.

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There is lots of blame to pass around. Members of both political parties worked to pass NAFTA.

Quick story:

I live near Hazleton, PA. The mayor of that town pushed for an ordinance that made it unlawful to hire or rent to illegal aliens. It is now in federal court. The thing I find disturbing are the lawyers representing local Hispanics saying that the law violates the civil rights of illegals to seek jobs and housing.

I'm sorry. I thought civil rights, as outlined in the Constitution and Federal law, applied only to citizens and resident aliens. Not anyone who just waltzes over the border.

But, back to the truckers. Democrats wanted it because it made the world "more fair." Republicans wanted it because business found a way to make a buck. How many of these officials are still in Washinton?

Just remember, we can do something about this by getting involved. Vote and encourage others to do the same. Volunteer to work for your party of choice. Make your feelings known to your Congressional Representative and Senator. They work for you. Some of them forget that and act as though their words are pronouncements from on high. And when they do not bend to the will of the people, then vote them out.

Wow, that B.A. in Political Science did have a use! LOL
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Yet another brilliant move by Bush. This reminds me of his plan to allow hunting of endangered species to help preserve them.

Is he TRYING to make everyone hate him or what? it's not like he even really cares anymore. He's going to be out of office soon enough anyway unless he somehow turns the U.S. into a dictatorship before then, which doesn't seem so far fetched to me...
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Yet another brilliant move by Bush. This reminds me of his plan to allow hunting of endangered species to help preserve them.

"Is he TRYING to make everyone hate him or what? it's not like he even really cares anymore. He's going to be out of office soon enough anyway unless he somehow turns the U.S. into a dictatorship before then, which doesn't seem so far fetched to me..."

Do you actually believe GBW caused all this? Are you that influenced by the Bush Haters? You actually believe Congress and the Democrats had absolutely nothing to do with this?

Like Rusty said, this all started in the Clinton administration and Bush gets the blame. Unbelievable!

Show me ONE Democrat candidate, or member of Congress who wants to send illegals back to Mexico, or wherever they came from....Just ONE.
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I've been listening to the garbage for a while now and would like to add some factual content.
Living about 5 miles from the Mexican border for a large part of the year, I can tell you that the Mexican trucks have been coming across for a long time now. This will extend the distance from the border that they can travel.
I challenge anyone to show me a single case of a Mexican truck involved in some huge disaster so far. Also, come on down to the border crossings and look at the new facilities that have been built to check out these trucks coming in. Every truck is checked and has to be up to US safety standards before crossing. They do not just check cargo, they also safety check these trucks. I share the highways with these Mexican trucks every day and they are no better or worse than all of our truckers.
US truckers are allowed to travel to Mexico and works loads down there, guess how many go? Zero, don't want to compete, if they can't get the amount of money they want, they aren't going to compete. The long haul Mexican trucks have to buy U.S. fuel, buy U.S. insurance etc. This whole thing is a big propaganda agenda by American truckers. I think if they want to go on strike, go ahead, maybe some of the Canadian and Mexican truckers can pick up the slack!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Texas Bubba:
I've been listening to the garbage for a while now and would like to add some factual content.
Living about 5 miles from the Mexican border for a large part of the year, I can tell you that the Mexican trucks have been coming across for a long time now. This will extend the distance from the border that they can travel.
I challenge anyone to show me a single case of a Mexican truck involved in some huge disaster so far. Also, come on down to the border crossings and look at the new facilities that have been built to check out these trucks coming in. Every truck is checked and has to be up to US safety standards before crossing. They do not just check cargo, they also safety check these trucks. I share the highways with these Mexican trucks every day and they are no better or worse than all of our truckers.
US truckers are allowed to travel to Mexico and works loads down there, guess how many go? Zero, don't want to compete, if they can't get the amount of money they want, they aren't going to compete. The long haul Mexican trucks have to buy U.S. fuel, buy U.S. insurance etc. This whole thing is a big propaganda agenda by American truckers. I think if they want to go on strike, go ahead, maybe some of the Canadian and Mexican truckers can pick up the slack! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So you say, where's the factual content?
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Interesting post. I use to think truckers where the the most curteous on the road. I know know better and the problem isn't Mexican drivers. I find for the most part theu dislike Rv's think they own the highway and also will run in on you in a minute. Nafta is the responsibilty on both parties and was signed into law by Bill Clinton. Politics is about big money and it matters not they party.
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