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Old 10-17-2013, 10:30 PM   #1
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Walmart has non violent policy too..

Recent discussion on Lowes policy about confronting shoplifters, it was mentioned that many large stores have a similar policy.

"Kristopher Oswald, 30, was fired from Walmart this week after he intervened to help a woman who was apparently being assaulted in the parking lot of the store."
Policy on not confronting shoplifter is to protect employees and customers from physical harm, eliminating liabilty. Would the liability shift if a customer is being assaulted on store property and the employee ignored her plight??...
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:54 PM   #2
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I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I didn't help. So I'd probably be fired.
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:12 PM   #3
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Last episode of Sinefeld. Jailed for failing to render aid under Good Samaritan law. No help - no soup for you.
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Old 10-18-2013, 01:14 AM   #4
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There is no law requiring that you aid someone. You can not be held liable for failure to act. I think that is fair and reasonable. I would not want to be forced by law to come to someone's aid. If I do, I want it to be a free will act.
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Old 10-18-2013, 01:49 AM   #5
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I'd think a loud yell or screech would scare the the attacher away. Don't think you would get in trouble for that, but who knows. Would that be considered intervening?
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There is no law requiring that you aid someone. You can not be held liable for failure to act. I think that is fair and reasonable. I would not want to be forced by law to come to someone's aid. If I do, I want it to be a free will act.
And according to SCOTUS even the police have no duty to protect any of the general public. That's a 1968 ruling and you can't sue them for it.
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Old 10-18-2013, 06:30 AM   #7
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I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I didn't help. So I'd probably be fired.
And I would do my best to encourage the person that is being assaulted to sue the crap out of walmart for not protecting them. There is NO Sign "Anywhere" on a walmart parking lot that states, inter at your own risk. And, It wouldn't be the first time i stop a fight!
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I believe I've seen statistics re: crime at WalMarts. There is an abnormally high incidence of crime on their locations. If you think some little guy driving around the parking lot is going to be a lot help if you get in trouble, think again
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I've read the posts here, and the story.

And I'm trying to figure out what I would do...

Not as an employee on lunch break, but if I were a customer going into the store, and saw someone in trouble like that.

I suppose I could hit the panic button on the key fob and have the horn honking and the lights flashing. And call 911 on the cell phone.

Or, I suppose reflex could take over, adrenaline start rushing, and prepare me for fight or flight.

I really don't know. Has anyone else thought about what they would do?

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No way to know, every scenario & every person is differant, I'd think if I were an employee I would have done the same. If I were not an employee, just a shopper, I still probably would have done the same, however , it's possible the attacker may have suffered more severe injuries once he started attacking me.
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I believe I've seen statistics re: crime at WalMarts. There is an abnormally high incidence of crime on their locations. If you think some little guy driving around the parking lot is going to be a lot help if you get in trouble, think again
i would be interested in those statistics as i often overnite at wally world
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This is not the first time that Walmart has fired imployees for violating their policy.

Here is another story.

I would have intervened.
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And I would do my best to encourage the person that is being assaulted to sue the crap out of walmart for not protecting them. There is NO Sign "Anywhere" on a walmart parking lot that states, inter at your own risk. And, It wouldn't be the first time i stop a fight!
Just wondering why do you think Walmart is responsible for protecting them? I do not agree that "suing the crap" out of Walmart is the answer, but unfortunately that is the mindset today. It seems to me that every public place is a given that you "enter at your own risk."
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Walmart as well as many other big company's do what there lawyers, accountants & there liability insurance tells them . The bottom line is money. Your safety, or the employees safety isn't a priority, the priority is to make money, that's it.
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