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02-09-2009, 08:12 PM
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Registered User
Excel Owners Club
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Location: North of the Mason Dixon Line
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Like a lot of folks in this site I have a job. I
work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and they are
distributed as it sees fit. In order to get
that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine
test, with which I have no problem.
What I do have a problem with is the distribution of
my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine
test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get
a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn
it for them??
Please understand, I have no problem with helping
people get back on their feet. I do on the other
hand have a problem with helping someone sitting on
their behinds. Could you imagine how much money the
taxpayer's would save if people had to pass a urine test
to get a public assistance check????? Book2
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02-10-2009, 02:04 AM
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Location: Jarrell, TX 76537
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I am old enough to remember being raise on welfare. But, in my day you didn't get a check. You had to go the the welfare office with your bills to get them paid and get a grocery order. They didn't pay for a phone and you couldn't own a car. We didn't even have a a refrigerator. We had milk delivered or went the grocery store down the street to get bread, eggs, lunch meat etc. My main form of transportation were my feet, my bike or the bus. My spending money came from a 6 day a week paper route that I had to collect money from my 75 customers and yes I got stiffed for a .35 a week paper. We had no central heat or any A/C. I can tell you that -20 winter weather made for tough sleeping. We had no hot water for about 2 years in a 3 room apartment for my mother and 2 brothers. No food banks either.
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02-10-2009, 01:32 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Appalachian Campers
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,168
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Quote:
Originally posted by book2roadtrash:
Like a lot of folks in this site I have a job. I
work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and they are
distributed as it sees fit. In order to get
that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine
test, with which I have no problem.
What I do have a problem with is the distribution of
my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine
test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get
a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn
it for them??
Please understand, I have no problem with helping
people get back on their feet. I do on the other
hand have a problem with helping someone sitting on
their behinds. Could you imagine how much money the
taxpayer's would save if people had to pass a urine test
to get a public assistance check????? Book2
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How much do you think we would save if all the illegals were cut out?
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02-10-2009, 02:10 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Illegals are a big problem, just look at Italy and Spain or lets say Western Europe, even here in Canada. I do not not know, if we would be better off or are we feeling better, that we can help those people. Too bad some countries just can't look after their people!
TW
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02-10-2009, 02:19 PM
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: Mesa, AZ USA
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And as of now, considering the payback bill WILL pass, it contains provisions for seniors to be taken off the medicare treatment rolls should they present a burden greater than their worth.
For example, men who contract prostate cancer will be evaluated and if it is determined their life expectancy is not greater than the 10 years this cancer takes to kill you, treatment will be denied.
Same for women with ovarian cancer and probably breast cancer.
Certainly brain cancer such as that raging through Sen. Kennery's body would go untreated. Of course, in his case, he is outside the medicare system (congressional insurance is the best in the world) and will be given all possible care.
IOW, most seniors over 70 will be denied most life saving (prolonging) cancer and other treatments.
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02-10-2009, 02:56 PM
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Quote:
And as of now, considering the payback bill WILL pass, it contains provisions for seniors to be taken off the medicare treatment rolls should they present a burden greater than their worth.
For example, men who contract prostate cancer will be evaluated and if it is determined their life expectancy is not greater than the 10 years this cancer takes to kill you, treatment will be denied.
Same for women with ovarian cancer and probably breast cancer.
Certainly brain cancer such as that raging through Sen. Kennery's body would go untreated. Of course, in his case, he is outside the medicare system (congressional insurance is the best in the world) and will be given all possible care.
IOW, most seniors over 70 will be denied most life saving (prolonging) cancer and other treatments.
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I haven't read any of the legislation, nor do I intend to, but I can't imagine that what you say will come to be law. It would be like the book 1984 all over again.
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2012 Jeep Wrangler Sport Unlimited
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02-11-2009, 05:55 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally posted by golden:
I haven't read any of the legislation, nor do I intend to, but I can't imagine that what you say will come to be law. It would be like the book 1984 all over again.
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Well, apparently the senate moguls hoped people wouldn't read it. Perhaps that is why they are screaming "...we don't have time to read it. We need it now."
Do you think maybe they know it contains tons of totally unthinkable laws that no sane person would pass it.
What I said it most assuredly in there. It is now being mentioned on the news and talk radio. I have personally read the applicable paragraphs.
They keep saying there is no pork spending. Pork being redefined as spending put into the measure the night before the vote. That is laughable. They are just plain LYING.
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2002 Itasca Suncruiser - WH Chassis - 35U - 2006 Jeep Liberty
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02-11-2009, 06:41 AM
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Senior Member
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Hanguy, I read that also. Also in the bill is approximately $300 BILLION of new PERMANENT spending to be added to the annual budget without debate.
Folks you've GOT to be aware of what's going on in our government.
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02-11-2009, 06:59 AM
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Senior Member
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I just read through the Terms of Service for this forum to see if it was illegal to discuss politics and couldn't find anywhere where it said it was. What follows is what I hope will be kept civil and respectful, both in my comments and any that follow. I have no intention of insulting anyone, rather I'd like to see an intelligent (that may be hard for me!) discussion. Ok, politically correct statement is now posted!
First off, I'm a Bush guy. I have the utmost admiration and respect for what he did, and tried to do, while in office. Sadly I have to admit that his policies regarding financial aspects of our lives were a failure, particularly during the final few months of his administration. I'm not smart enough to know if it was his fault or not. I just know it happened on his watch.
Secondly, I wasn't an Obama guy. However, as a non-expert on the ins and outs of political affairs, I've been impressed with how he conducted his campaign and what has occured since he took office. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, even if that means some of the things he does, including his policies, are against my feelings. My attitude is that he can't be any worse than the preceding eight years were, financially speaking.
As one who served over 20 years in the service of this country, I support the Office of the President, even if I don't particularly care for the occupant. I will support this one until he proves to me that he is in some way hurting this country.
Moderator - If I have stepped over the bounds I apologize and will understand if you delete this post. I've tried to keep it on an evel keel and believe I succeeded.
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2012 Jeep Wrangler Sport Unlimited
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02-11-2009, 07:07 AM
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Senior Member
Texas Boomers Club
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Quote:
Originally posted by golden:
I just read through the Terms of Service for this forum to see if it was illegal to discuss politics and couldn't find anywhere where it said it was.
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From iRV2.com's Community Rules:
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Please don't post it here if you wouldn't say it to your grandmother. Posts containing explicit, obscene or vulgar language, images or links to websites with adult content/images or punctuation marks designed to "trick" our obscenity filter will be removed. Discussion of politics and religion is not permitted.
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See the last sentence. That's about as clear as it can be.
Rusty
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02-11-2009, 07:40 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Location: Yuma Arizona USA
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Funny; only a week or so ago I made a smart remark on one of the topics and all I sad was that our former president wasn't in power when something happened. Bang!! my post was gone and I had a note from the moderator saying "no politics allowed" Can't believe this is still running.
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2010 Dodge Ram 1500 Toad
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02-11-2009, 07:58 AM
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Quote:
See the last sentence. That's about as clear as it can be.
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Missed it, sorry. Feel feel to pull it any time you want.
We bred, raised and showed Shelties for 25 years and are down to only one (plus a Golden) right now. I can't imagine being without one.
Denny
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2004 Itasca Suncruiser 38R, W22, Ultrapower
2012 Jeep Wrangler Sport Unlimited
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02-11-2009, 08:03 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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I see why I missed it. It's under IRV2 Community Rules rather than Terms of Service. Good thing I'm not a snake hunter!
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2004 Itasca Suncruiser 38R, W22, Ultrapower
2012 Jeep Wrangler Sport Unlimited
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02-11-2009, 10:14 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
Ford Super Duty Owner
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I have to watch out for those dang snakes as well.
Ken
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