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Old 03-11-2013, 09:04 AM   #1
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weight limits on roads

So just curious what other states weight limits are? I believe the federal weight limit is 80,000lbs with max axle weight of 17,000 lbs however many states including Michigan allow a gross weight of 164,000 lbs with additional axles. Max axle weight of 13,000 lbs.
Reason I ask is Ohio has a proposal to raise max weight to 90,000 lbs but no mention of requiring extras axles. As if the roads around here are not bad enough i'm surprised this is being considered. Although the southern states don't get the type of freezing and thawing we get I wonder if they allow more weight or same type of restrictions.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:16 AM   #2
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I believe the Federal max axle weight is 20,000 and there was a waiver last year that gave motorhomes the same exemption as buses which permits them to have weights as high as 24,000 on a single axle.

On any road with federal $$ (which is pretty much all the major ones), federal law trumps state law.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:19 AM   #3
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I believe the Federal max axle weight is 20,000 and there was a waiver last year that gave motorhomes the same exemption as buses which permits them to have weights as high as 24,000 on a single axle.

On any road with federal $$ (which is pretty much all the major ones), federal law trumps state law.
Would that also work if the federal requirement was lower? If a state wanted to allow a higher weight limit than the feds allow?
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:38 PM   #4
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States must comply with Federal Weight Regulations: (no surprise there)
Axle Weight Limits:Single: 20,000# Tandem: 34,000# Gross Wt: 80,000#

Penalties for Non-Compliance with Federal Standards
Weight Standards: A state is subject to loss of its entire National Highway System apportionment if its laws or regulations establish weight limits for commercial motor vehicles operating on the Interstate Highway System that are either higher or lower than the four federal weight standards mentioned above. The only exception relates to changes affecting established “grand-father” limits; although a state may not set weight limits above a grandfathered maximum, it may set them below the maximum, provided such a limit is not below the corresponding federal standard. (4th Limit is bridge formula for axle spacing and weight)

What are grandfather rights? They arise from 23 U.S.C. 127(a) and allow State weight limits to exceed normal Federal weight limits on the Interstate System. Under the first grandfather right, a State may allow vehicles to operate at higher than normal single axle, tandem axle, and/or gross weight limits if such weights were permitted on its public highways on July 1, 1956. (2nd right applies to bridge formula)

Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) site: Commercial Vehicle Size and Weight Program - Freight Professional Development - FHWA Freight Management and Operations

Ohio must have the higher limit grandfathered, or ----.
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Sooooo, will you be exceeding 80K lbs?
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Each spring my county imposes a 10T weight limit on roads.
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States must comply with Federal Weight Regulations: (no surprise there)
Axle Weight Limits:Single: 20,000# Tandem: 34,000# Gross Wt: 80,000#

Penalties for Non-Compliance with Federal Standards
Weight Standards: A state is subject to loss of its entire National Highway System apportionment if its laws or regulations establish weight limits for commercial motor vehicles operating on the Interstate Highway System that are either higher or lower than the four federal weight standards mentioned above. The only exception relates to changes affecting established “grand-father” limits; although a state may not set weight limits above a grandfathered maximum, it may set them below the maximum, provided such a limit is not below the corresponding federal standard. (4th Limit is bridge formula for axle spacing and weight)

What are grandfather rights? They arise from 23 U.S.C. 127(a) and allow State weight limits to exceed normal Federal weight limits on the Interstate System. Under the first grandfather right, a State may allow vehicles to operate at higher than normal single axle, tandem axle, and/or gross weight limits if such weights were permitted on its public highways on July 1, 1956. (2nd right applies to bridge formula)

Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) site: Commercial Vehicle Size and Weight Program - Freight Professional Development - FHWA Freight Management and Operations

Ohio must have the higher limit grandfathered, or ----.
As was posted earlier, RV's are now allowed 24,000#'s on a single axle. There was a small section on it in the FMCA magazine last year when it went into effect.
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RV weight limit.-- docj had mentioned this earlier, here's the reference.
New Highway Bill Exempts RVs from Axle Regs | RV Business

Hadn't though about it doing away with some tag axles...
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