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Old 06-17-2016, 08:32 AM   #1
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Weird Gas Prices

It's funny about the way the gas prices have been going. Traditionally we have had very high gas prices here compared to states around us. It would not be unusual to find prices in Erie, PA to be $.20 a gallon less and then even cheaper in Ashtabula, Ohio. When we would go to Terre Haute, IN, to pick up our daughter from college we would find the gas to be cheaper across Indiana than it was here in Western NY.

When we made the trek last month we were shocked to see gas about $.10 a gallon more expensive in Erie and as much as $.25 a gallon higher in Ohio and Indiana. I have no explanation for the difference from what had been the case in gas pricing for years and years. Any ideas?
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Lots of factors to look at. Competition is one of the biggest reasons, local and state tax rates vary, some special taxes may expire, some may be new. Years ago we used to have gas wars and sometimes they would be selling gas at less than the tax on it (only for a very short time). Now there are very few independent gas stations so it rarely happens anymore. Here in the Atlanta metro area we have higher gas prices in the summer because of a "summer blend" to combat smog conditions but if you go 40-50 miles away from Atlanta gas prices may be cheaper because they don't have "summer blend". Gas prices here can vary .10 just from one side of Atlanta to the other, but that may be 50 miles. Also gas prices seem to change a couple times a week because of crude oil price fluctuations, quick to rise and slow to fall.
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Lots of factors to look at. Competition is one of the biggest reasons, local and state tax rates vary, some special taxes may expire, some may be new. Years ago we used to have gas wars and sometimes they would be selling gas at less than the tax on it (only for a very short time). Now there are very few independent gas stations so it rarely happens anymore. Here in the Atlanta metro area we have higher gas prices in the summer because of a "summer blend" to combat smog conditions but if you go 40-50 miles away from Atlanta gas prices may be cheaper because they don't have "summer blend". Gas prices here can vary .10 just from one side of Atlanta to the other, but that may be 50 miles. Also gas prices seem to change a couple times a week because of crude oil price fluctuations, quick to rise and slow to fall.

Really??

How do you explain 2 stations, different brands 1,500 feet apart starting out the day at $2.79, by noon $2.69, by 4 $2.59 and by 8 $2.52?

Or, went out to dinner yesterday at 4, they were $2.52, came home at 6 they were $2.49.
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The entire issue is a total wonder. Rather the try to figure out something I can't do anything about, I let my fingers wander thru GasBuddy and choose accordingly.


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In the past, before the huge fluctuations in gas price, the difference between regular, super, and premium was $0.15 per gallon at each step. This week it is $0.20 difference at the local grocery store and $0.25 difference at Walmart. My guess is the other stations will do the same as Walmart.

I also doubt, as the total price goes up, this differential come back down.

Current price for regular in East TN is $1.99/gallon, 2 weeks ago it was $2.15, go figure.
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Gas in Chicago's west suburbs: $2.76/gal
Gas in Tucson, AZ: $1.89/gal
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Been traveling the Alcan, now in Whitehorse. Fuel prices shot up about a week ago because of the Fort McMurry Fire, and yesterday one of the Chicago refineries shut down. That might have effected Ohio. Be glad what your paying, I have paid as high as $1.39 a liter today. Whitehorse Yukon is running $1.22 (liter). So that comes out to $4.60 (Canadian). Maybe $3.40 US. Still painful
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This answers a lot of questions.
PA has the highest state taxes on fuel in the US.
Enjoy
http://taxfoundation.org/blog/how-hi...xes-your-state


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It's funny about the way the gas prices have been going. Traditionally we have had very high gas prices here compared to states around us. It would not be unusual to find prices in Erie, PA to be $.20 a gallon less and then even cheaper in Ashtabula, Ohio. When we would go to Terre Haute, IN, to pick up our daughter from college we would find the gas to be cheaper across Indiana than it was here in Western NY.

When we made the trek last month we were shocked to see gas about $.10 a gallon more expensive in Erie and as much as $.25 a gallon higher in Ohio and Indiana. I have no explanation for the difference from what had been the case in gas pricing for years and years. Any ideas?

gas is $2.17 here in Kingman az, yet 65 miles away in Needles Ca. it is $3.29.... strange......
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Don't ever buy gas in Needles, CA even if you have to hitchhike to AZ to avoid it. It's the highest gas in the area at all times. Easy to avoid westbound by gassing up at I40 exit nine in AZ. A little harder eastbound, where best bet is in Barstow, CA, not cheap, but better than Needles.

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Old 06-19-2016, 09:39 AM   #11
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I realize that gas prices can vary across state lines, but my point is that gas in Erie is ALWAYS cheaper than here in Buffalo but suddenly it is more expensive. Following farther west on I-90 the gas was ALWAYS even cheaper in Ohio, but suddenly is not just more expensive but a lot more expensive. It would not be uncommon in the past for gas to be as much as $.40 a gallon cheaper in Ohio than here in Western NY. I didn't know if there was some particular reason for the huge swings in price where a cheap location is suddenly substantially more expensive.
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I'm originally from Buffalo and it is notoriously famous for high gas prices, especially compared to Erie, PA. I used to try to fill up whenever I was in the area to save $0.30 per gallon or so. Supposedly, Buffalo is at the "end of the line" for transporting the fuel, so is more expensive.

Yet there were a few times where it was cheaper in WNY than in WPA and, no, I never got an explanation. Just a fluke.

Keep in mind a couple of things. First, the price at the station is NOT based on what the station paid for the gas, it's what the station WILL pay for gas. The only commodity I know of where they base the price on what it will cost them to replace the product, not what they paid for it. So if their supplier says that their shipment next week goes up $0.10 per gallon, the price goes up now. The opposite is supposed to be true, but it never seems so quick.

But part of the controlling factor in WNY is Delta Sonic and NOCO. Delta Sonic always undercuts the others as their promotion and NOCO, a local chain, is just more competitive than Mobil or Sunoco.

I gave up years ago trying to figure it out.
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right now diesel is cheaper here than gas....been awhile since I've seen that. The pricing of fuel has always been a head scratcher. They find excuses during the summer to bump prices to get everyone that travels.
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On the other side of NY State, we are generally a bit cheaper in Saratoga County then Albany or Schenectady counties as we still have 'only' a 7% combined state and county sales tax vs their 8%. Gas is about 2.25/2.35 a gallon with diesel being currently 3-5 cents more. Going North to say Plattsburgh, gas is ~2.47 and diesel ~5 to 20 cents more. Take the ferry to Burlington, Vermont and it's much lower, usually - but not always. As to why the high NY cost of fuels - several other state taxes, thanks to our friends in Albany, make our fuels about as expensive as anywhere on the East Coast with the possible exception of Conn. Outlying areas are often price gouging, saying the high cost of transport requires more per gallon. To a point, they are correct but it's also lack of competition with few stations and far between so they can 'offer' their product at whatever the public can bear though there are some weak state guidelines as to percentage of markup.
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