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Old 07-31-2012, 10:25 AM   #99
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Along with smoke, do they install periods and commas in mobile devices ?
I imagine they do. Periods and commas aren't required (by me, anyway) to ask for support on internet forums. It has been my experience that the self-appointed internet grammar police rarely have anything of value to contribute.

Don't take this to mean that I don't prefer to read well constructed, articulate postings. I just think people who are not as eloquent as others in their literary musings here deserve to have their requests and questions responded to. Just as deserving as another, who uses proper punctuation.
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I imagine they do. Periods and commas aren't required (by me, anyway) to ask for support on internet forums. It has been my experience that the self-appointed internet grammar police rarely have anything of value to contribute.

Don't take this to mean that I don't prefer to read well constructed, articulate postings. I just think people who are not as eloquent as others in their literary musings here deserve to have their requests and questions responded to. Just as deserving as another, who uses proper punctuation.
Yessir.. Hate 'pompous' people..
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"Deserve".

Isn't that a bit like "entitled"?

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As in 'entitled' to the same respect and consideration as everyone else?


Yes..
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:09 PM   #103
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deserve to have their requests and questions responded to. Just as deserving as another, who uses proper punctuation.
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As in 'entitled' to the same respect and consideration as everyone else?

Yes..
No, "deserve to have their requests and questions responded to"

I don't think anyone "deserves", or is "entitled to" that.

Respect is earned.

If your "shorthand" tells me you're just lazy, you can "go look it up for yourself" or hope somebody else as knowledgeable on the particular subject is more inclined to tolerate it than I.

I don't "owe" you anything but civility, yet you believe you're "deserving" of answers?

Hmmmm...... It must be a generational thing.

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Ok, so just posting a question on here is then considered 'lazy', no? I mean, one can always 'look it up yourself', so why even post?
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No, "deserve to have their requests and questions responded to"

I don't think anyone "deserves", or is "entitled to" that.

If your "shorthand" tells me you're just lazy, you can just go "look it up" for yourself!

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Freedom is a beautiful thing. You can decide who to bestow your knowledge upon based on the criteria you set. "Use proper grammar, or I'll keep my answer to myself." I support you.

I can be of the opinion that people who need help come here because of the depth of knowledge our members have, and the searchable resource we have left in the wake of our discussion. And to selfishly withold useful, relevant, and helpful responses to "lazy shorthand" queries is counter to the stated mission of the forum, and helps no one.

Though, your point is well taken; If a poster is lazy in their request, a respondent is justified to be lazy in their response. In my view, that makes at least one too many lazy people.

Same thing goes for the RTFM crowd, and the people who say a question has already been answered. I do not mind answering the "Is regular toilet paper safe?" question once a week because it broadens the knowledgebase.
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Ok, so just posting a question on here is then considered 'lazy', no? I mean, one can always 'look it up yourself', so why even post?
Asking the question doesn't show laziness.

Some contemporary "shorthand" may, however.

I get to make that choice for myself whether you convey laziness, and then decide whether I wish to respond to you.

You are not "deserving" or "entitled" to an answer from anybody.

If you ask "nicely", you usually get a reply to even the most-asked questions.

If you come here with your "tweets", I personally will ignore you. Others may very-well be far more "understanding".

That's my personal stance, and it appears that there are others that share that view.

Others yet, that are willing to put up with more contemporary forms of "communication".

You take your chances, but there's something to be said for more-experienced answers.

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Same thing goes for the RTFM crowd, and the people who say a question has already been answered. I do not mind answering the "Is regular toilet paper safe?" question once a week because it broadens the knowledgebase.
...and don't forget the tire pressure, black tank, extended warranty, and 'how safe are WalMart parking lot' questions.

It is a bit of a fine line to walk when we try to help new members learn how to use the forum tools, while at the same time answering their questions.

As for the issue of written clarity, I do think to a certain extent those who have suggested it is a generational thing, are right. Many of us who are more senior and have lived in environments where showing pride in what we did mattered, hate to see someone asking us for the favor of reading and responding to their request not taking the time to make it easier for us to understand what they are asking.

IMO, it's as simple as that. Not the fall of western civilization and I don't believe anyone is losing sleep over any of it but it is an interesting discussion.

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Whew!! So happy that this has been resolved. Now, we can worry more about camping issues.

I was worried that this might be turning into a language/typing forum.
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Anybody know a safe toilet paper to use? Don't want my black tanks clogging.....
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If we didnt have people posting the same questions over and over again, the forum would be all done in 6 months and then just end up being a database... No fun at all..
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I don't reply to some questions that are cryptic because, however I try, I'm not sure I read it right.
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NLOVNIT. For some that may not have figured it out and are personalized licenses plate challenged, I'm going to take a stab at:

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My guess is "and loving it" as in retirement and travel.
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