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Old 02-21-2013, 10:27 PM   #99
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They started mandatory water conservation here a few years back. Overall use went down about 30% the first year so the water company raised the rates because their income went down. Water use continues to go down and the rates continue to rise. We now pay a big minimum rate even if we don't use any water!
My point ezakary (is that still word?). Seen it happen at small water companies in AZ.
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Old 02-22-2013, 05:39 AM   #100
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An "economist" on TV predicted >$5 @ G for regular gas this summer, didn't mention diesel fuel. WY has the lowest gas prices in the U.S.A. If anyone sees me pulling a tent out of the trunk of my car _____ don't This reminds me, perhaps I should cancel our appt. to look at that Winnebago Journey Saturday.
How many years in a row now has an economist predicted $5.00 gas ? I guess one day they'll be correct and then they could say " told you so. ". Hopefully not this year .
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:15 AM   #101
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Conditioning: They tell us to expect it, we do and they get away with it.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:42 PM   #102
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Im in SE Mn..its 3.79 around here. and they say things about overseas and what not. but i could have swore gas in Mn came from Canada.
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Old 02-24-2013, 12:08 PM   #103
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It's not just the price of gas at the pump, there is no rime or reason to much of what is going on today. I don't accept someone saying "Greed" as a reason as there are many companies making more profit then oil companies and no one says they're greedy.
How many know the taxes on a gallon of gas is actually more then what the oil companies make off the same gallon ?
The last time I checked, you paid more per ounce for bottled water than for gas, and I expect input costs and taxes are a lot lower on water than on gas, but nobody complains about the cost of water. Interesting.
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Old 02-24-2013, 01:20 PM   #104
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now bear in mind these examples do not imply that gasoline is cheap... it just illustrates how outrageous some prices are... you just may be shocked by the last one.. hmm.. think a gallon of gasoline is expensive? take a gander at this..

Diet Snapple 16oz $1.29...$10.32 gal. Lipton ice tea 16oz $1.19... $9.52 gal. Gatorade 20oz $1.59... $10.17 gal Ocean Spray 16oz $1.29... $10.00 gal Brake Fluid 12oz $3.15... $33.60 gal Vick's Nyquil 6oz $8.35... $178.13 gal White Out 7oz $1.39 $25.42 gal Scope 1.5 oz $0.99... $84.48 gal Pepto Bismol $4oz $3.85... $123.20 gal

& the real kicker Evian water 9oz $1.49... $21.19 gal...and the buyers don't even know the source! Evian spelled backwards is Naive(duh!) boy are we all very green! wonder why printers are so cheap?.. they have you hooked on ink... $5,200.00 gal???!!! (ouch!) shocking!

when you are at the pump be glad your car doesn't run on Water, Scope, Snapple, Nyquil, Whiteout, or God forbid printer ink!
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:54 PM   #105
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you forgot to add the 8 dollar cup of coffee from starbucks..lol.
and I really wouldn't be shocked to see water go up and on the shortages...in the next years.
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I've never been able to fathom why people buy tap water in a bottle.

The fact that the American Public "swallowed" the nonsense that this particular industry has used to persuade us to this absurdity is quite a testament to Madison Avenue's decades-long effort to turn us into the Nation of Consumers-Not-Producers we've become!
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:12 PM   #107
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I've never been able to fathom why people buy tap water in a bottle.

The fact that the American Public "swallowed" the nonsense that this particular industry has used to persuade us to this absurdity is quite a testament to Madison Avenue's decades-long effort to turn us into the Nation of Consumers-Not-Producers we've become!
If you ever tasted north Texas water when the lakes turn over you would fathom it, taste it and smell it. The rest of the time it's no treat either. Some places just have better water quality than others. My fresh water holding tank is only as good as what goes in it as well - inline filters can only do so much. I've been places where I thought I was going to need bottled water just to get the shampoo outta my hair. Too soft - too hard - to metallic - sulphuric - tannic. All water isn't created equally. Just my experience and I can tell a difference. Even have a favorite bottled water.
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Well if I have to put 100 Gal. of Starbucks in my tank I'll probably Just have to give the ole Dutch Star away.
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If we use less, they'll claim they have to jack up prices to maintain enough profits to maintain the plants they use to make the product we can't do without.
Last I heard the oil companies can explore and get oil (economic sense) from deep water and scale at $79 a barrel and above. Just heard today on Bloomberg Surveillance podcast...USA will be petrol independent middle of next decade. But it still will ride the global price winds - its just the dollars will stay in North America.
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If you ever tasted north Texas water when the lakes turn over you would fathom it, taste it and smell it. The rest of the time it's no treat either. Some places just have better water quality than others. My fresh water holding tank is only as good as what goes in it as well - inline filters can only do so much. I've been places where I thought I was going to need bottled water just to get the shampoo outta my hair. Too soft - too hard - to metallic - sulphuric - tannic. All water isn't created equally. Just my experience and I can tell a difference. Even have a favorite bottled water.
I agree and both of you Filter is the way to go not bottled water... having said that we have on hand always four cases of bottled water...earthquake preparedness.
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In the last 2 months I've seen gasoline in Quartzsite go from a low of $2.999 to the $3.859 it is today.
Oil is well under $100/barrel, I think all the refineries are working, why the rise in prices?
I suspect price manipulation by the traders.
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$4.72/ gal here in Winnipeg. Lots of taxes on our gas ( also smokes and refreshments). I say to all my southern friends, "that's how we pay for our free health care". lol
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