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Old 07-15-2016, 07:02 PM   #99
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Doesn't anyone here know proper Texan, it's all y'all! Everyone knows all y'all is the plural of y'all. All y'all are fixin to get me riled!

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You need to re-study your Texican.

Y'all is the contraction of "You" and "All". So to say "All Y'all" is redundant!

Now people from Georgia and Alabama... "All Y'all" is proper!
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Old 07-15-2016, 07:25 PM   #100
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Personally, I think we should have more respect and appreciation for the English language.
I'm far from perfect. But it really bugs me that so many people don't even try to learn the correct usage of simple words.
I'm not too good with punctuation either.
I am, however, willing to learn continually.
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Old 07-15-2016, 07:26 PM   #101
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I'm a Yankee, but have lived, traveled and worked in that 'other part' of the country:
  • I learned that y'all means you, singular.
  • I also learned y'all also means you and the group, plural
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The plural of y'all is
you-uns. Up north it youce guys. 😂
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Old 07-15-2016, 07:32 PM   #103
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When did "probably" become "prolly"
or "drawer" become "draw"?
Mom was from Connecticut... I learned draw to mean drawer from birth up. I'm guessing it was regional to start and grew out across the nation.
Mirra was the thing you looked in to see if your face was clean, and beurrah (no clue how to spell that one) was the thing that held your clothes. But then, my pa would say outten the lights and other funny stuff because he was from German Mennonite heritage.
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Old 07-15-2016, 08:32 PM   #104
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How about "I could care less"...well then why don't you?
When I correct my wife for saying that and try to explain it to her she gets mad and then I feel she " couldn't care less"


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Old 07-16-2016, 09:23 AM   #105
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In short, you adjust the English you use to fit your social context.
Not everyone. Never in a million years will "I seen" come out of my mouth, no matter what the social context. If the hillbillies want to judge me for that, so be it.


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To me the acid test of using any language, written or spoken, is do you understand the speaker? Im pretty sure I would understand someone using I seen instead of I saw . . .
I have to say I'm disheartened to hear an English teacher say that.
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DH is from the country in the south. He has a definite southern, country drawl. Unfortunately, his grammar isn't the best. It's not horrible (no I seen or it don't), but just enough that it sometimes drives me crazy. I've tried to tell him numerous times that a southern accent is fine with proper English usage and grammar. Couple the accent with poor speech, and one is thought of as uneducated and a "hick". There are times the first impression one gives is very important.
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Old 07-16-2016, 02:58 PM   #107
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How about the improper use of the pronouns "I" and "me."

CORRECT: My wife and I went on a trip.

INCORRECT: Linda went on a trip with my wife and I.
Take out the conjunction and you would not say, "Linda went on a trip with I."

CORRECT: Linda went on a trip with my wife and me.

It seems there are very few people who know how to correctly use these two little words today.
How about?
Me and my wife went on a trip.
Gets me every time!

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DH is from the country in the south. He has a definite southern, country drawl. Unfortunately, his grammar isn't the best. It's not horrible (no I seen or it don't), but just enough that it sometimes drives me crazy. I've tried to tell him numerous times that a southern accent is fine with proper English usage and grammar. Couple the accent with poor speech, and one is thought of as uneducated and a "hick". There are times the first impression one gives is very important.
One would have to assume that you knew that about him when you got married, or even after the first sentence he ever said to you.
I submit that this is one battle you'd lost before it ever began.

My very best friend probably sounds a lot like your husband. In my friend's case he's a very intelligent man who is poorly educated due to being dyslexic (and 40 years ago when he was in school he was just considered 'slow', and that was the end of it). He always gets nervous if he has to go somewhere where there will be 'smart' people who may make fun of the way he talks - or just snub him in some way. I tell him to just say 'screw it' and move on. If they're not willing to talk to him long enough to get to KNOW him, then he doesn't need to hang out with them anyway.

Given a choice, I'd rather be around nice people with less than perfect grammar, than snobs who speak perfect English. (I AM aware there's a middle ground between those two points.)
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It appears Merriam-Webster disagrees.

Preventative | Definition of Preventative by Merriam-Webster

... But I'm with you on the Cummings vs Cummins thing!
Actually, I followed your link, did you?

The definition of 'Preventative' was Preventive

The definition of 'Preventive' was what we know both words to mean.

Since there was no definition of the word 'Preventative', I have to wonder...

Also, there was a lot of discussion as to which word was more 'accurate' and there did not seem to be much resolution.

interesting....
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Another two words that are constantly confused on the irv2 forums are loose and lose.

Loose = attachment: a loose end.
free from anything that binds or restrains; unfettered: loose cats prowling around in alleyways at night.

Lose = to come to be without (something in one's possession or care), through accident, theft, etc., so that there is little or no prospect of recovery: I'm sure I've merely misplaced my hat, not lost it.

I'll blame automatic spell check/replacement for some of these errors, but reading and editing posts before hitting "Reply" will catch some of these mistakes.


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Good posts. I'm glad to see folks finally standing up for proper use of our language. It doesn't make us "grammar policemen," just concerned about our spiral into illiteracy. Shame on that English teacher.
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Good posts. I'm glad to see folks finally standing up for proper use of our language. It doesn't make us "grammar policemen," just concerned about our spiral into illiteracy. Shame on that English teacher.
Why is that?
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